Posted on 12/26/2014 7:20:12 AM PST by SleeperCatcher
Some conservative political analysts have opined that former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush announced recently that he was further exploring his options to run for the GOP presidential nomination as a means of pre-empting all other potential GOP candidates. Many of the same analysts say there was an additional, not-so-subtle message, and it was aimed primarily at conservatives: ‘Don’t bother running; the monied GOP interests (i.e. the donor class) have spoken and Jeb Bush is who they want.’
Over the Christmas holidays I have had a number of people ask my opinion about Bush, and what I have told them, essentially, is this: Jeb Bush, like all the Bushes, is an inherently decent man. He has been a governor of a mostly red (but sometimes purple) state. He shares lineage with a storied political family. But if the goal is to restore some semblance of constitutional government to our republic, Jeb Bush is the wrong candidate, for he – like his father and brother before him – is no conservative.
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In 2012 the GOP blamed their loss on the Conservatives for “not going to the polls”.
In 2014 the GOP won in a landslide and claimed the GOP “could have done it without the Conservatives support”.
Not voting does not make a statement. I am tired of holding my nose for decades and will not vote for ANY GOP candidate. I WILL vote for a singular Conservative candidate to make one small statement.
If the GOP is permanently the opposition party, then there won’t need to be a GOP, because the Demagogic Party will always be in control. But that’s the goal of “third party” advocates anyway.
The GOP has become evil. Their support of it is support of evil. Simple math.
Well stated. My family was gathered around for Christmas. We discussed the what we would do if Jeb is nominated.
ALL of us agreed he nor any other RINO will ever get our vote. There were over 15 of us of voting age.
I don't think the evil GOPe knows just how anger Conservatives feel at the vile betrayal of the likes of McConnell, Boehner and the rest of the RINOs in Congress.
Really?
So looking for an alternative has nothing to do with it?
The Bushes are good people. I have a lot of respect for them as a family.
However, they are not conservatives nor do they have libertarian tendencies.
The primaries will be interesting. Jeb will get lots of money, but not a lot of votes. America does not want dynasties - either Clinton or Bush.
Democrat’s only strategy for 2026 = blame Bush.
Republican response, nominate Bush.
Yes, that’s exactly what I just said. It’s just nice to see that the idea that Reagan had — which was to retake the party and then retake the country — has been systematically abandoned, ignored, or derided.
Yes, but it takes an ENORMOUS amount of money to campaign. They say a Jeb Bush run will take most available donor dollars and guarantee his winning enough primaries to win the nomination fight. My observations of presidential political campaigns tend to agree with this.
My concern then becomes that Jeb gets nominated, but his defeat by the democrat candidate is predestined, as the money spent getting him nominated then moves on to the democrat nominee, and the conservatives will not vote in November.
Once again, my observation is that this is precisely what happened in the 2008 and 2012 campaigns.
If Jeb is nominated, I hope Ted decides to run as an independent, while forming a new party.
Regardless, I still expect Ted to be the Republican nominee.
No.
It would be a gesture that would have no meaning to anyone but you. While i'm perfectly comfortable with a last act of defiance, I would like to think we might actually accomplish something more significant than a last stand if we would figure out a strategy of wrecking establishment candidates and then sticking with it.
Right now they have us in the position of voting for a Moderate or getting a liberal. I would rather have them in the position of voting for a conservatives or *THEY* get a liberal.
The salient point here is who's gonna run this party? The moderates, or the people who actually stand for something?
We need to make them understand that we would rather burn it down than to let them have it. Call it a high stakes game of chicken if you wish, but at this point I don't see where we have much of anything left to lose.
What’s your take on Senator Ted Cruz if he gets into the running?
No argument.
So that we can have a bunch of southern states with open primaries elect the GOP candidate? That is what needs to change!
I believe this is what Cruz and Lee have been doing. By tweaking the establishments noses, they are gaining the support for us ordinary folk. The MSM, libs and RINO’s don’t see what’s happening because they are using the old paradigm.
It’s like operating in the matrix. They are using old rules which do not play well with guerilla operations.
He just borrowed it for awhile.
During my lifetime the Repub Party has been progressive, has never been conservative.
Hence my tagline.
I do not think I am nuts, I think we are in a big game of chicken with the Establishment types, and I think the only way to get them to stop pushing Establishment types is to demonstrate to them that we won't blink.
We make them blink, or they keep rolling us. That's the stark choice we face.
The primaries start out in the Northeast and by the time it gets around to us it is largely over. THAT is what needs to change.
Yes, this is a relatively minor systemic problem. New Hampshire and Iowa are hardly bastions of conservative thought. Primaries should be awarded on numbers of votes cast for the Republican candidate and not because Ego-driven New Hampshire and Iowa should be permitted to claim a right to set the agenda for the rest of us.
But even solving this problem will not solve the larger problem of the Monied men (donors) going to people who want to dole out government contracts in exchange for donations. We must break that feedback loop somehow or else we will continue to get Harlots in congress who vote for the highest bidder.
I know how you feel, but the logic is inescapable. Whether we have the will to follow it is another matter.
We’ll lose if Jeb’s elected anyhow.. so we might as well make the break when and if he he gets the nomination.
Losing on the margins will not send a message. Spiking his vote harshly might get the point across.
All I know is that the NRA has successfully used this tactic for the last several decades, and now they have maneuvered themselves into a position where both parties effectively support their positions.
Which means of course you are playing right into their wishes.
The Country club Republicans want their cake and they want to eat it too. They aren't rational. They won't learn until they get burned badly, and i'm not even sure that will wake them up.
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