Posted on 11/20/2014 2:02:45 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
President Barack Obama is a liar.
That’s the takeaway from Massachusetts Institute for Technology professor and Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber’s video oeuvre of narcissistic honesty.
“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies,” Gruber said in one of several videos recently uncovered of him explaining at forums and panels over the last several years how Obamacare was dishonestly sold to the public.
“In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said healthy people are going to pay in — if you made it explicit that healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed,” Gruber went on to say in the 2013 video. “Lack of transparency is a huge advantage. And basically, you know, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever. But basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.”
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“One former senior administration official said that as the law was being crafted by the White House and lawmakers, some White House policy advisers objected to the breadth of Mr. Obama’s ‘keep your plan’ promise,” the Wall Street Journal reported last year. “They were overruled by political aides, the former official said.”
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Some people need more convincing than others and SOME are beyond convincing.
It is what it is.
Of Course Obola is a liar!
I pegged him as a slick con man for the get go!
Dr. Ben Carson | Nov 19, 2014
http://townhall.com/columnists/drbencarson/2014/11/19/stupidity-reconsidered-election-proved-americans-arent-fooled-by-gruber-and-obama-n1920600
”What is truly disturbing is the fact that our government is willing to engage in the purposeful deception of the populace in order to thrust its secretive agenda onto an unsuspecting populace and a sycophantic mainstream media. As I have said many times before, Obamacare was never about health care; it was about government control and wealth redistribution.” (Ben Carson)
Not a single Republican senator or Congressman voted in favor of that monstrosity called Obamacare. It must be make perfectly clear that democrat Phd com man Gruber, called stupid not all the American voters, but just the democrat voters that put the “Liar in Chief” in the White House, in spite of his Marxist anti-American back ground, and all the Democrats legislators co-conspirators with the president and the MSM in the greatest deception against the American people in the history of the United States.
Obamacare Architect/ Non-Staff Member Visited The White House Quite A Bit
Matt Vespa | Nov 19, 2014
“Mr. Gruber went to the White House at least six times in 2009, according to a review of visitor logs. He met with the president on July 20, 2009, and was joined by other economists. Some of the other meetings were held with Jeanne Lambrew, deputy assistant to the president for health policy, and Peter Orszag, former director of the Office of Management and Budget.
Mr. Gruber visited the White House at least twice in 2010 and met with Jason Furman, who is now chairman of the president’s Council of Economic Advisers. Mr. Gruber meet with Ms. Lambrew at least twice this year and was at the White House as recently as June, the records show. For five of the meetings, visitor records don’t show when Mr. Gruber arrived or departed, making it unclear whether the appointments were kept.
Mr. Gruber wrote a 2011 cartoon book called “Health Care Reform” that aimed to explain the federal law. A note about the author says Mr. Gruber “consulted extensively with the Obama administration and Congress during the development” of the law.”
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2014/11/19/obamacare-architect-nonstaff-member-visited-the-white-house-quite-a-bit-n1920697
According to Obama, the MTI professor, a frequent visitor to the White House, was just a ”random” adviser. For his “invaluable advise and services” to the Obama administration professor Gruber received over 5.9 million dollars... Stupidity and corruption to the nth power.
That Clown Prince nobola is a chronic liar should shock no one. The true believers, though, will justify his lieing by saying “everyone does it”. Nothing will deter the terminally blinded.
It’s not just the stupid on the left,
it’s the willfully blind that are the biggest problem.
They DON’T WANT TO HEAR that the issue on which they based their self-righteousness is a fraud.
That’s the core of it.
I would like to thank Herr Gruber for the one public service he has GENUINELY provided. He has revealed the contempt the political class has in general , and Democrats in particular , have for the common man. He has shined the light of truth on just how important it is for his ilk to lie to us to get what they want. Outsiders and have been saying this forever but were ignored because they were just being ‘selfish’. To have this elite insider bragging about it , who has made millions of dollars doing so, and was so eager to teach a new generation of elites to do likewise that he blatantly posted videos on the Internet for the future indoctrination of elites was his one true , if unintended gift.
David Horowitz shows WHY the left is so ruthless . I ask “How do they get the moral vision they have? Once somebody has a moral vision of any kind that is very nearly the last thing you can change about them. That’s the core of the problem, the twisted moral vision they have. At the root of it is the belief that man must be made to serve man.
They wouldn’t vote for him again because of their sense of reality. They’d vote for him again for the very reason Horowitz lays out in the original post - are you really going to admit to yourself its a lie?
I have a family of very well educated cousins, all above the age of 50 right now.
All of them doubled down on Obama, and one went so far as to campaign for him the second time around.
They can see, smell, and taste the smoking hole he’s left behind for the party, the country, and for them personally. Their retort: ‘Consider the alternative - Romney’.
There’s an incredible piece in the WSJ today about the guy who dropped $79M this election on green liberal candidates. Tom Steyer’s Democrats is what I think its called.
It will take your breath away. The piece is about the recent Keystone XL vote, and how the ‘gentry liberals’ basically chose the greenies over the private sector unions yesterday, and how big a deal that was.
41 Democrats let go of a Senate seat to back climate change, which has been completely disproven and roundly exposed as nothing more than alchemy - the pursuit of junk science to bamboozle money from ignorant people. They tossed Landrieu over even though the trains are left as the alternative, given the oil is coming out of the ground no matter what.
Most of these ‘climate evangelists’ can’t even tell you the atomic weight of CO2, or where you are most likely to find it in any given volume if you were intent on finding it. (the floor - it’s heavier than air, so it settles to the ground, which is hilarious because they’ve spent all that money looking for it on the rooftops of buildings.)
I don’t want to pick on the seventh day Adventists, but the story of their origins applies here. The church was started by a man who prophesied that Jesus was coming on a date certain. They were all there ready to greet Him, and alas he didn’t come. He threw out a new date, and He still didn’t come.
The church survives to this day. Doesn’t matter that the guy was wrong. All that mattered was that once the belief was publically made, it becomes almost impossible to admit thereafter that you’d been duped.
I know democrats who believed Obama when he said you could keep your doctor AND your plan. I knew people who thought this REALLY would lower costs and help the needy. Good people. People who still trusted those in high office to tell the truth.
Democrats didn't care - they lied anyway.
I can't blame everyday Democrats for believing those lies. The lies were well crafted. The lies were put forth by democrat leaders and their trolls... By the sycophants in the press and people who should be trustworthy, but weren't... by eggheads from MIT laughing at the 'marks' they were taking... ABC has yet to cover this scandal, but they did push Obamacare - and the lies supporting it.
We need to have compassion for those duped...
DEMOCRATS are the ones who Gruber the Goober was saying are so STUPID.....and they are!
I have NO compassion for such dumbasses....they have RUINED this once fine country.
How many of them do you think will have heard of Jonathan Gruber?
A large voting blocs democrats control is people who can't do math.
You turn to these people and say, "They're adding 40 million people to the heath care system including people with preexisting conditions - and they're saying it won't cost more - is that crazy or what?" and they'll respond with something like, "well, everyone has a right to feel like they want to about issues".
What! What? No, this isn't a 'feel' issue... we can all have our own opinions and feelings, but NOT OUR OWN FACTS... the facts ARE that you can't add 40 million new people to a system and have the costs stay the same."
So yeah Ann, I understand the frustrations. I'm just saying we need a little compassion for people who don't understand math - (and that group includes most journalists) and are easily taken by corrupt democrats like Obama and Gruber... Or pity - maybe compassion's the wrong word...
These are the people who watch NBC nightly news or CNN....so almost none of them have heard of Gruber.
The packaging of Obamacare gives us a clue as to how Obama himself was packaged as a candidate to dupe gullible Americans——except the connivers covered-up all of his Marxist-Progressive Poison using focus-tested sound bites.
At one point, Obama was even instructed to say he wanted to be “another Reagan.”
I think a sizeable number of Grubercr . . . I mean, Democrat, voters don't watch NBC nightly news, or CNN, or any television news.
Yep - progessivism is just another denomination of gnosticism. Good article.
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