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9 facts that explain why Obama is about to help millions of immigrants
Vox ^ | November 16, 2014 | Dara Lind

Posted on 11/17/2014 11:21:52 AM PST by EveningStar

President Obama is expected to announce major changes to immigration policy before the end of 2014 -- and possibly as soon as this week. On one level, this is the end of a process that started in March, when the administration first announced it was reviewing deportation policy to see how it could be made more humane. On another level, though, this is another phase in the development of an immigration system that's been transformed over the last 20 years.

To understand how we got to this point, it's necessary to understand why immigration policy looks so different now than it did back then. Massive relief to millions of unauthorized immigrants would be an unprecedented move on Obama's part -- but it is also a reaction against trends in immigration enforcement that are themselves unprecedented.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; criminals; illegalaliens; immigration; obama
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To: john mirse

Soros, and the billionaire “techies” will make Obama a very rich man. Just like Al Gore.


21 posted on 11/17/2014 11:36:02 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: EveningStar
Why?

1) They aren't white

2) through 9) See Item 1

22 posted on 11/17/2014 11:37:21 AM PST by Regulator
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To: EveningStar
You can have a welfare state or you can have open borders, but you can't have both for very long.
23 posted on 11/17/2014 11:37:25 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: EveningStar

“9) Not feeling under threat matters tremendously to immigrants”

Yes, we wouldn’t want criminals or murderers to be under threat by the law either.


24 posted on 11/17/2014 11:38:40 AM PST by headstamp 2
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To: GOPJ
BS, the gumball explanation is true, but the reason Obama is doing illegal amnesty is in the hopes of being seen as the next Martin Luther King in some eyes and to hope and create a massive new taker Democrat voter base.
25 posted on 11/17/2014 11:40:13 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
9) Not feeling under threat matters tremendously to immigrants

Not being under threat from our own government would matter tremendously to law abiding citizens too.

So why is our own government more concerned and compassionate about scoff law illegal aliens than US citizens?

Because the government has become corrupt and an instrument of power and vengeance Barack Obama uses against the American people and American culture he despises.


26 posted on 11/17/2014 11:44:25 AM PST by Iron Munro (DHS has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: EveningStar

Libertarianism.
COMPLETE PLATFORM TEXT
INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND CIVIL ORDER

IMMIGRATION:
“”THE ISSUE: We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new “Berlin Wall” which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. government’s policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.

THE PRINCIPLE: We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age or sexual preference. We oppose government welfare and resettlement payments to non-citizens just as we oppose government welfare payments to all other persons.

SOLUTIONS: We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. We strongly oppose all measures that punish employers who hire undocumented workers. Such measures repress free enterprise, harass workers, and systematically discourage employers from hiring Hispanics.

TRANSITIONAL ACTION: We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.””


27 posted on 11/17/2014 11:45:01 AM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: EveningStar

They aren’t IMMIGRANTS until they are given citizenship in the country accepting them. They are ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS!!!


28 posted on 11/17/2014 11:48:22 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ('Provisional ballots'. When legal votes just aren't getting the job done. - The DemocRATS.)
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To: EveningStar

This is why the Founding Fathers decided that the U.S President needed to be an American.


29 posted on 11/17/2014 11:51:00 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ('Provisional ballots'. When legal votes just aren't getting the job done. - The DemocRATS.)
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To: stinkerpot65
Dems get a permanent majority, and a socialist state with brutal oppression of conservatives and Christians.

I agree that's what our Marxist overlords think, but they're deluded if they think it will be "permanent." We'll simply secede and create a new supermajority of conservatives.

As with things like "global warming", "celebrate diversity" and "Islam is a religion of peace, the Left is engaging in magical thinking with this "legalize Hispanics and rule over Christians and conservatives forever" notion.

30 posted on 11/17/2014 11:51:30 AM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: stinkerpot65
Dems get a permanent majority, and a socialist state with brutal oppression of conservatives and Christians.

I agree that's what our Marxist overlords think, but they're deluded if they think it will be "permanent." We'll simply secede and create a new supermajority of conservatives.

As with things like "global warming", "celebrate diversity" and "Islam is a religion of peace, the Left is engaging in magical thinking with this "legalize Hispanics and rule over Christians and conservatives forever" notion.

31 posted on 11/17/2014 11:51:30 AM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: EveningStar

“help immigrants” really? I think this is going to poison immigration for decades. Plus, they are not “immigrants”, who don’t need help, they are illegal infiltrators.


32 posted on 11/17/2014 12:13:52 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: EveningStar

So why is he going to hurt millions of Americans?


33 posted on 11/17/2014 12:20:23 PM PST by Nea Wood
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To: GOPJ

Saw that some time ago. The video isn’t that long. I wish that Fox would allow its evening crew to play it and then have a discussion. It would be an even bigger benefit if they were allowed Lynch’s “They Come to America”, pts 1 & 2.

This country would go on fire.


34 posted on 11/17/2014 12:34:44 PM PST by qaz123
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To: A CA Guy
the reason Obama is doing illegal amnesty is in the hopes

Just imagine all the bad things that will happen if Obama somehow legalizes 40 or 50 million socialists as voting citizens.

That is the real reason for his threats, he wants all those things you imagine, unlike you, they just see them as a plus.

35 posted on 11/17/2014 12:46:18 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: DaveyB

Not only just a ‘citizen’ but he was sired by a communist, Muslim cult guru named Mohammed Subuh. Long story here but mama Stanley Ann had to go to Kenya to legitimize baby Obama’s birth. The guy is a totally corrupt person who was given the power to purge his records in favor of a bunch of garbage.


36 posted on 11/17/2014 12:48:10 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: ansel12

The Illegals are here in the MILLIONS BECAUSE of ALL the BENEFITS that WE PAY FOR!!!


37 posted on 11/17/2014 1:03:02 PM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: EveningStar

They aren’t immigrants. They are illegal aliens.

http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/International-Taxpayers/Immigration-Terms-and-Definitions-Involving-Aliens


38 posted on 11/17/2014 1:05:47 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Ann Archy

It isn’t just illegals or legals, the world has billions of people ready to move from their current life on dirt floors and bordering on starvation as they work to survive, that would move here whether there is welfare or not.

Who wouldn’t prefer to struggle in a place with great infrastructure, clean water, utilities, stable government and law enforcement and greater safety and on and on, instead of a third world hell hole?

Besides, why play that game anyway, do you really expect an end to social programs anytime soon?


39 posted on 11/17/2014 1:26:43 PM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: Gluteus Maximus

Just how are you going to simply secede? In 1860, it was not so simple, what is different now?


40 posted on 11/17/2014 1:59:51 PM PST by erkelly
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