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Some U.S. hospitals weigh withholding care to Ebola patients
Reuters ^ | Wed Oct 22, 2014 | Julie Steenhuysen and Sharon Begley

Posted on 10/25/2014 12:33:19 PM PDT by walford

...the care of the first Ebola patient diagnosed in the United States, who received dialysis and intubation and infected two nurses caring for him, is spurring hospitals and medical associations to develop the first guidelines for what can reasonably be done and what should be withheld.

Officials from at least three hospital systems interviewed by Reuters said they were considering whether to withhold individual procedures or leave it up to individual doctors to determine whether an intervention would be performed...

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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Ebola Death Panels?
1 posted on 10/25/2014 12:33:19 PM PDT by walford
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2 posted on 10/25/2014 12:38:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: walford
I'd give it only a 0.1% chance, but if Ebola were to get really, really bad in the US (and I give that a 1% chance), I can imagine a scenario where health workers say, "We think you might possibly have Ebola: we need to toss you directly into that incinerator over there. Grab him boys!"

Faced with something like a Hollywood Zombie Apocalypse,I can see people doing whatever it takes to stop the spread.

Not likely. But possible.

3 posted on 10/25/2014 12:39:13 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Democrats have a lynch mob mentality. They always have.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not treating Ebola patients? It's an African disease, so THAT's RACIST!


4 posted on 10/25/2014 12:40:28 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yeah, and rather than grab a person they think has Ebola, just shoot them from a distance; that’s what I’d do. That stuff is incredibly infectious on a patient that is vomiting and showing under-skin hemorrhages.


5 posted on 10/25/2014 12:42:32 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The thing is, if Ebola takes off in the US, do we really want every hospital and every medical professional at them exposed? I know the DC crowd would say "the risk of that is very slight", but:

1. I don't think they know what they're talking about

2. Even if the risk is slight, is it really sensible to have no hospitals in a region that are Ebola-free?

It wouldn't be difficult to direct everyone with Ebola-like symptoms to go to one hospital in the area. If it's flu or Envero or whatever, so what? A specialty hospital could sort it out without getting everyone else sick.

6 posted on 10/25/2014 12:44:19 PM PDT by grania
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This is totally understandable, the Dallas hospital will have to eat the $1/2 million in treatment costs and now is not getting patients so they cannot make up for it. It is a matter of survival for the hospitals.


7 posted on 10/25/2014 12:44:33 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun free zones?)
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To: walford

Quarantine W. Africa. Any Obola positive patients already here get air transported in hermetically sealed containers to CDC designated facilities for treatment/disposal.


8 posted on 10/25/2014 12:46:27 PM PDT by shove_it (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen -- Dennis Prager)
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To: walford; Smokin' Joe; null and void; azishot; melancholy; Velveeta
Some U.S. hospitals weigh withholding care to Ebola patients

Perhaps the reality is, hospitals recognize they don't have adequate equipment and Bio-level set-up to protect their existing medical staff.

The medical profession are there to help people, not to commit suicide or carry deadly diseases to their family and surrounding community.

9 posted on 10/25/2014 12:47:39 PM PDT by LucyT
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I’m not going to disagree at all with what you posted. I think it’s a tough situation that might loom in front of us. As a guy on the internet, I have to admit that I don’t know what the right course of action is.

One of the prime takeaways should be this — and it really has nothing to do with Ebola, as such:

The government cannot handle a crisis. Our government does not know what the right course of action is. About anything. Our government is lost on all topics, but especially a real crisis.

NOTE: I’m not saying Ebola is a crisis right now. I’m saying that if a terrorist were to introduce a bio-weapon, or if an EMP went off, or if 100 suicide bombers came up through Mexico, or if a dirty radioactive bomb went off, or any of a number of scenarios — if faced with a crisis, the American government would do two things and two things only:

1) Look at the polls to weigh how the crisis would affect the next election
2) Go on TV and lie.

That’s all the government is capable of these days.

The topic of whether hospitals could or should or would take in Ebola patients? — I have no evidence that our government has spent even 5 minutes thinking about it, let alone come up with workable guidelines.


10 posted on 10/25/2014 12:50:26 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Democrats have a lynch mob mentality. They always have.)
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To: walford

That is Obama through and through.


11 posted on 10/25/2014 1:02:56 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: walford

All Ebola patients should be treated in the White Hut.


12 posted on 10/25/2014 1:06:40 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: walford; Smokin' Joe; null and void; azishot; melancholy; Velveeta
Withholding is a misnomer.

Hospitals and personnel can't give what they don't have.

13 posted on 10/25/2014 1:15:36 PM PDT by LucyT
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just returned from an ER visit (Sat morning lawn mishap)...

was asked by admissions if i had been in West Africa. Good to know they are interested...

then, a few minutes later, only to hear from a Doc suturing me up that his wife just returned from Liberia last week!!!!


14 posted on 10/25/2014 1:20:14 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: C210N

If I don’t post anymore, you’ll all know why.


15 posted on 10/25/2014 1:20:58 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: walford

What business or profession wants to do death defying work daily with no hope of remuneration????

Obama has absolutely no understanding of economics, or he’d have stopped all visas, all people with passports stamps from the countries, and even medical personnel on commercial flights.

We cannot sustain even a small widespread outbreak of Ebola here. Period. Prevention was the only answer.


16 posted on 10/25/2014 1:22:26 PM PDT by Yaelle
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just returned from an ER visit (Sat morning lawn mishap)...

was asked by admissions if i had been in West Africa. Good to know they are interested...

then, a few minutes later, only to hear from a Doc suturing me up that his wife just returned from Liberia last week!!!!


Wow, first, sorry for your injury. But that little comment is basically malpractice. Sheesh.

And I think Kevin Bacon is doomed.


17 posted on 10/25/2014 1:24:02 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: walford; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

18 posted on 10/25/2014 1:24:04 PM PDT by null and void ("Agoraphobia": fear of the marketplace; "AlGoreaphobia": fear of the marketplace of ideas.)
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To: Yaelle

New tagline!


19 posted on 10/25/2014 1:26:16 PM PDT by null and void (And I think Kevin Bacon is doomed.)
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To: walford

Re the asking: I had brain surgery two and a half weeks ago and no one asked me anything. That was when everyone was all about the first ebola guy Duncan.

Went for my post op appt a couple days ago, and the first thing they did at Cedars was ask, “Have you been to West Africa?” And then “Have you been around anyone who has?”

Wonder what they do when someone says yes.


20 posted on 10/25/2014 1:26:17 PM PDT by Yaelle
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