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1 posted on 10/20/2014 6:04:33 AM PDT by dennisw
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Lots of freepers could see this coming down the pike. Gay marriage is the battering ram that godless cultural Marxists are using to assault normal American people who have belief and respect for God

****** google cultural marxism
http://destoryculturalmarxism.blogspot.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism


2 posted on 10/20/2014 6:08:03 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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The Gaystapo are attacking everywhere. A civil war is brewing.


3 posted on 10/20/2014 6:09:48 AM PDT by twister881
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To: dennisw

Christians have always endured persecution. To suffer and die for Christ is nothing new for them. The wicked and evil must do as they want and the righteous must suffer their wrath. For the kingdom of God is not of this world the kingdom of God is of Heaven.


4 posted on 10/20/2014 6:10:05 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: dennisw
It does have a religious exemption, but the Hitching Post is a for-profit company, not technically a religious organization,

Yeah. But that's the next step.

5 posted on 10/20/2014 6:10:35 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
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Do you go to an eye doctor for a toothache.NO. There are many places these people COULD get married. This is just a stunt.


10 posted on 10/20/2014 6:18:30 AM PDT by o-n-money
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To: dennisw

In their spot, facing criminal action, I guess I could marry them. It would be a brief ceremony. No particular words are required as far as I know. When they came to me, I’d ask to see their marriage license and perhaps their IDs. Then I’d say, “You’re married,” and sign the paperwork.


12 posted on 10/20/2014 6:21:21 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: dennisw

The silent majority will eventually start fighting back and it ain’t gonna be pretty.


13 posted on 10/20/2014 6:21:29 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: dennisw

maybe they need to become nonprofit


16 posted on 10/20/2014 6:25:23 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: dennisw
Idaho City To Christian Pastors

I find out they aren't talking about Idaho City, a town of about 500. It's like reading "New York City to allow deer hunting" then you find out it is some tiny town far away from NYC.

Yesterday's sermon mentioned that marriage is one man and one woman so there's still some fight left.

19 posted on 10/20/2014 6:26:35 AM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: Elsie
Check in with the Mormons
20 posted on 10/20/2014 6:29:25 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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Here’s the sticky widget the Knapps created for themselves. By advertising a for-profit business that essentially says they’ll marry any two adults of opposite sexes, apparently with no counseling and no refusals based on any conflict which scriptural fidelity, they are discriminating based on sex.

Most ministers I know insist on a counseling visit with the engaged where they discuss the scriptural meaning of the vows and assess whether the couple should go through with the wedding based on their responses and apparent emotional maturity. Some even insist you pass a workshop before they will agree to do the nuptials.

It will be more difficult for such ministers, with a track record of declining to do heterosexual weddings they felt were unwise or unprepared for marriage, to be trapped by this ordinance.

However, these drive-by wedding chapels, like the ones in Las Vegas, are in a different boat because they don’t screen the couple for biblical readiness before agreeing to perform the vows.

In a sense, their lack of discrimination to hetero weddings is why they are now seen as clearly discriminating to homosexual weddings.

Not that I agree at all with this government bullying but I think there is an important distinction to be made between people like the Knapps and people who are church ministers who take performing vows seriously enough to have said no a few times in the past when the couple wasn’t a good match or required additional screening based on biblical principles.


21 posted on 10/20/2014 6:29:49 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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Ministers are under no legal obligation to marry anyone. There are priests who will not marry divorcees unless the earlier marriage was annulled. Our minister will not marry any couple unless one of them is member of the congregation.


22 posted on 10/20/2014 6:30:03 AM PDT by riverdawg
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What happened to freedom of speech and religion? What’s the difference between freedom of religion of a for profit church vs a not for profit church? You can refuse to marry someone if you don’t get paid? Most ministers get paid to perform weddings,they just don’t claim it.

The words are the same,the pay is the same...what’s different? One pays”0 taxes,one doesn’t. So if you pay taxes to the government,you lose your freedom of speech and religion?


23 posted on 10/20/2014 6:32:13 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: dennisw
The libtards have pushed for homosexual marriage by saying it's not religious - that's it's a governmental institution, but then they want to batter religious entities into joining in their debauchery.
25 posted on 10/20/2014 6:35:08 AM PDT by mykroar (Let justice be done though the heavens should fall. - John Adams)
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Look for the pastors to do a “Houston,” disregard the ruling.


30 posted on 10/20/2014 6:44:23 AM PDT by Biggirl
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I am beginning to think these kinds of reports are made up, sort of like the reports of ‘hate crimes’ that turn out to be perpetrated by the supposed victims.

What gay couple in their right mind would want a minister or official who is opposed to gay marriage to officiate their wedding? It doesn't make sense. Same with the wedding cakes, etc.

I have a feeling ‘activists’ call around with the intention of trying to find ministers and officials who refused to perform the weddings so they (the activities) can contact the media and raise a big stink.

34 posted on 10/20/2014 6:58:16 AM PDT by TomGuy
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I’ve always believed that a big part of the impetus for the gay marriage movement is that it is an issue in which Christians can be isolated from others. The Left hates Christians and has a long track record of persecuting them. Also, if you scratch many people who claim to be for gay marriage, that belief is very shallow. They don’t really believe that there is nothing odd or deformed about homosexuality, but they don’t want to be called bigots and don’t see homosexuality as a spiritual or moral issue in anything like the way that Christians do. But the hard-core gay militants and their sympathizers really DO want to punish and destroy anyone who gets in their way.


41 posted on 10/20/2014 7:53:16 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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I think some lamp posts badly need decorating in Idaho City...


42 posted on 10/20/2014 7:54:08 AM PDT by Gritty (Obama wants to wage war by measuring it out in teaspoons - Ralph Peters)
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It used to be that secular liberals criticized Christians for “Sunday religion,” i.e., religion that was confined to Sunday worship and which did not affect the rest of their lives. Now, they INSIST on Sunday-only religion, and say that you must leave your religion behind the walls of your church, and that once you leave church your religion must be inoperative.


44 posted on 10/20/2014 7:56:37 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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The Knapps now face a 180-day jail term and $1,000 fine for each day they decline to celebrate the same-sex wedding.” Note that jail time and the fine is per day, not per offense, The Daily Signal reports.

A fella with deeply held beliefs will find that there are many folks in jail that need salvation.

Share it while there!


60 posted on 10/20/2014 9:44:27 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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