Posted on 10/07/2014 10:10:45 AM PDT by GonzoII
(Reuters) - Sex could keep the Ebola epidemic alive even after the World Health Organization (WHO) declares an area free of the disease, one of the discoverers of the deadly virus said on Tuesday.
The WHO is hoping to announce later this week that Nigeria and Senegal are free of Ebola after 42 days with no infections -- the standard period for declaring an outbreak over, twice the maximum 21-day incubation period of the virus.
However, it appears the disease can last much longer in semen.
"In a convalescent male, the virus can persist in semen for at least 70 days; one study suggests persistence for more than 90 days," the WHO said in an information note on Monday.
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LOL.
I have a spiritual theory on what is wrong with certain areas...Ephesians chapter 6 vs 10-20 talks about classification of demonic spirits, and some rule certain areas or places in my opinion.
In Daniel the angel said he had been in the struggle with a ruler for 21 days of some area, and that meant to me the ‘ruler of darkness over that area’...which held him up in a spiritual battle or struggle.
My point being that in Africa there seems to be Sexual perversion in the Aids, spread of diseases sexually and a lot of sexual STD diseases, so I think of a stronghold of sexual issues that are creating death in so many ways.
I see in the Middle East a Religious Hatred and Barbaric Murdering demonic ruler that overtakes their senses to the point that the control and murder are all there is....no desire to work or create a lifestyle of community at all. Stealing and murdering with hatred for Jews and Christians that has existed since the 7th century...actually before that.
Sinners can’t control themselves so they react to the demonic entities around or within them like zombies...as Christians... people take control of their life as the good power is within helping them.
Maybe that only makes sense to me, but that is how I interpret some of these senseless nations. The list of demonic classes in Ephesians were principalities, powers, rulers of darkess and The last description in Ephesians was ‘spiritual wickedness in high places’ (kjv), so to me that was governments strongholds of evil. (paraphrased)
In fact, if you think about it, as one dies those evil entities are left to enter another....like passing around a disease or evil...continuously.
Like you said ‘they just don’t give a damn’, nor do they want to, it’s what it is and they don’t understand... just act upon base emotions I guess.
do they really think that will stop Ebola?
Oh, yeah. In fact, my understanding is that the dead bodies are more infectious than living ones.
Yikes.
Yikes is right on....when you think of how many workers come in contact with these people in life and death....even funeral directors or employees. Hospital personnel, and how many people they may have sneezed on in the public before being quarantined...it goes on and on.
The Black Death that killed 2/3 of Europe’s population is likened to E bola in some articles.....
I know some make that comparison. But it’s really, really stupid to do so.
Ebola has a similar death rate to the Black Death.
But if it was as infectious as BD, we’d have millions, probably many tens, possibly hundreds of millions of cases by now, not the still <10,000 so far confirmed.
I’m aware the “real” number of cases is probably a multiple of the confirmed cases, so let’s assume it’s 50,000 or even 100,000. Doesn’t change my point much.
I think it’s also reasonable to note that apparently a person is only slightly infectious in early stages of symptoms, becoming more and more so as the disease progresses. After death the body is essentially one big block of trillions or quadrillions of viruses, so it is wildly infectious.
I haven’t seen anything definitive about how long a corpse remains that infectious. What I know about this particular virus, which is pretty fragile, means that the viruses probably die off pretty quickly after death. I’ll try to find some confirmation on that.
Okay sounds good.
I thought since we have such better hygeine and cleanliness knowledge and medicine plus doctors, than at time of Black Death, that keeps more from becoming infected...or it spreading as fast at BD in it’s time. Imagine if we did not have those things in place and the scientific knowledge in place? Without all our modern medicine it might have spread like Wildfire.
However with the exposed starting to fly into more places, that might expose more people later, unless they stop them or quarantine immediately.
Here’s a source that says decomposing bodies remain infectious for only three or four days. They’re talking about gorilla bodies, but I can’t see any reason human bodies would be any different. Presumably infectiousness would drop off quickly after the first day or so.
Also good solid general information.
https://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Ebola_virus
That is better news than the weeks some had said, thanks.
If he knew he had been exposed why infect your family, or was he just thinking he wouldn’t get it?? Sounds like he wasn’t thinking clearly.
Black Death took four or five years to spread all across Europe, and it still missed some entire nations like Poland. In today’s Europe it would be across the entire continent in days or at most weeks.
Conditions in West Africa are not in practice much different from those in Europe at time of BD. The quarantine and other measures being taken there do not appear to be having much effect at all in slowing the spread of the disease, with exception of Nigeria where they stomped all over an outbreak, apparently successfully.
IOW, we know what needs to be done to slow the spread of Ebola in West Africa, we just don’t really have any way to put these methods into effect. We have the capability to do these things here, if we will implement them. I’m skeptical our present government will bite the bullet in time.
For a really, really scary portrayal of what a true worldwide pandemic of a disease with an Ebola or BD mortality rate might be like, may I suggest The Last Centurion, a novel by John Ringo? It is perhaps the most wildly non-PC book I’ve ever read. It’s not for everybody, as it’s written in basically a blog-style format, complete with typos and inconsistencies. But I enjoyed it immensely.
It’s built on the notion of a return of “avian flu,” but this time the strain is wildly infectious among humans. Direct effects kill percentages from 25 to 75 in various countries, with the total societal breakdown that follows killing many of the remainder.
The main thing I took away from it is that in a pandemic like this, our vaunted medical care system will be worthless. Yeah, most of those who became ill would survive in a functioning intensive care ward. But the capacity of those wards is by definition set up for the cases normally needed, with perhaps 10% to 20% excess capacity.
Tens of millions of cases, and the hospitals quickly become irrelevant. Especially since the medical staff are as affected or more so than anybody else.
Real SHTF stuff.
I still don’t think I’d want to go handling any week-old decomposed bodies of Ebola victims. For a variety of reasons.
Me either.
‘Tens of millions of cases, and the hospitals quickly become irrelevant. Especially since the medical staff are as affected or more so than anybody else.
Real SHTF stuff.’
Your comment above sounds about right.
I think the airline protesters in NYC have right idea and may get the attention on protecting Americans, even if just on the job. The government seems to be paralyzed with ISIS and now E bola...even though their policies created the problems.
Ebola is almost certainly not the apocalyptic disease that may very well end our present safe and happy world.
But it is almost equally certain one will eventually emerge. We have turned the entire world into a single large petri dish. Evolution will almost certainly produce a pathogen that will take advantage of that fact.
I think we are almost universally in denial of this. Just about every comment I’ve see on this issue have as a root assumption that if we just take the correct steps we can prevent a pandemic. But I don’t think we can.
He had a visa he’d received. He was exposed to ebola, in the vehicle with a very sick woman who died of the disease.
He had a ticket to the USA and exposure.
He likely came to the US because he wanted to see his family members here and be here for medical care when he got sick instead of in Liberia.
The VISA policy puts anyone who is ‘loose’ at risk, the same as AIDS. I tried red-flagging that today [after hearing it was news to Hannity yesterday], any my thread got yanked.
Makes the need for VISA tightening VERY important.
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