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To Defeat Islamic State, Remove Assad
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 10-06-2014 | John McCain and Lindsey Graham

Posted on 10/06/2014 9:15:58 PM PDT by Bettyprob

Syrians are already asking why we’re bombing ISIS but not stopping Assad’s attacks on them. Good question.

The airstrikes and other actions President Obama is taking against Islamic State deserve bipartisan support. They are beginning to degrade the terrorist group, also known as ISIS, but will not destroy it, for one reason above all: The administration still has no effective policy to remove Bashar Assad from power and end the conflict in Syria.

Administration officials have called their approach “ISIS first.” As for Mr. Assad, in the words of Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the administration will “defer that challenge into the future.” This is not a luxury we get to choose. And Mr. Obama himself recently said he does “recognize the contradiction” in his own policy—which is that by confronting Islamic State but not Assad, the U.S. may unintentionally benefit the ruler whose ouster he continues, rightly, to demand.

Unfortunately, this is not the only self-defeating contradiction in the administration’s Syria policy.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Syria
KEYWORDS: arizona; assad; graham; isil; isis; johnmccain; lindseygraham; mccain; senatorjohnmccain; senatormccain; syria
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When the Syrian Army loyal to Assad, and the Shabiha militia, are the main opposition forces on the ground to the ISIS in Syria, what sense does this make?
1 posted on 10/06/2014 9:15:58 PM PDT by Bettyprob
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To: Bettyprob
"To Defeat Islamic State, Remove Assad"

To Defeat Islamic State, Remove Obama.

2 posted on 10/06/2014 9:18:27 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Barak Hussein Obama (Baghdad Barry)- the first step into a thousand years of darkness.)
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To: Bettyprob

That’s like saying to defeat Hitler, remove Stalin.


3 posted on 10/06/2014 9:19:48 PM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: Bettyprob

bullhockey

FUJM

Assad is the only thing standing between ISIS total slaughter of the Christians

You John McCain are speaking traitorously

I am embarrassed I voted for you


4 posted on 10/06/2014 9:21:53 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Bettyprob; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty ping.

My take. Kill all combatants. Let the ladies sort it out. (including Graham and McCain)


5 posted on 10/06/2014 9:22:44 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Bettyprob
Read the Full Story

Of these clowns, McInsane & Linda? No thanks. I shouldn't have clicked on the thread, let alone the link.

6 posted on 10/06/2014 9:24:24 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Bettyprob

Michael Savage has been proven correct. This entire thing is a charade to take out Assad.


7 posted on 10/06/2014 9:25:09 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Bettyprob
When the Syrian Army loyal to Assad, and the Shabiha militia, are the main opposition forces on the ground to the ISIS in Syria, what sense does this make?

With ISIS within a couple miles of Baghdad, what sense do you think it makes, for General Dynamics, Northrup Grumman, Halliburton, News Corporation, and the Wall Street Journal.

8 posted on 10/06/2014 9:28:37 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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To: montag813

It is peculiar how a couple of months ago, no one could tell you whom the ISIS were, now suddenly they’re the Greatest Threat Ever™.


9 posted on 10/06/2014 9:29:10 PM PDT by Bettyprob
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To: Bettyprob
Advocacy of the continuation of the 'regime change' approach that has clearly been shown to be detrimental. In North Africa and the Middle East, removing a principality without careful considering on who (or what) will fill the vacuum left, is just an invite to disaster. Getting rid of Assad would simply hand more of the country over to radicalized Islamic elements, and in turn, lead to the massacre of anyone not following the rabid brand of Islam the new rulers espouse. The tale in Syria is the same story that happened in Libya, the same story that the Egyptian military had to stop in Egypt by throwing out Morsi and the Islamic Brotherhood, and the same story in Iraq.

Throwing out a principality and instituting regime change, without careful thought on who takes over, is not just an exercise in futility but also an act of folly. McCain fully believes Assad has to go, and someone believes that the 'moderate' rebels will respect the rights of religious minorities (Christians, Allawites, etc) in the country ....yet what we have SEEN (not heard from McCain and his ilk ....seen) is raping of nuns, beheading of children (girls as young as 6 after they were ganged ...bet you haven't seen that in the media), and mass slaughter of any men not towing the Jihadi rope.

Regime change (without a long term view on replacement) is a farce in that entire region.

10 posted on 10/06/2014 9:29:11 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Jet Jaguar

“My take. Kill all combatants. Let the ladies sort it out. (including Graham and McCain)” — haha


11 posted on 10/06/2014 9:29:58 PM PDT by odds
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To: Bettyprob

and when the IS takes control of Syria after Assad is gone why McCain and Graham will be soooo shocked!


12 posted on 10/06/2014 9:30:10 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Bettyprob

Can we strap these two savants into a couple of blue barrels and drop them on Syria from a B 1 bomber at 30,000 ft?


13 posted on 10/06/2014 9:30:12 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Bettyprob

I am of the belief that many in our government are in the pay of the Saudis, McCain for sure.


14 posted on 10/06/2014 9:31:12 PM PDT by Dan Cooper
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To: Bettyprob

Given that it was McCain, I should have included Raytheon (aka Hughes Tuscon).


15 posted on 10/06/2014 9:32:16 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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To: Bettyprob

And with Lindsay Graham I should have included Lockheed-Martin. I don’t follow who owns whom in that business like I once did.


16 posted on 10/06/2014 9:35:34 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Yes, war is profitable for many and defense contractors need a war every decade or so to keep the gravy train going. Ask Sen. Feinstein, she and her husband make big bucks from war. And who pays the price? Our troops who are used like pawns. I’m not anti-war. I’m anti-stupid war. None of our politicians have the guts to do what needs to be done, so we will keep repeating failed strategies.


17 posted on 10/06/2014 9:37:49 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Bettyprob
"It is peculiar how a couple of months ago, no one could tell you whom the ISIS were, now suddenly they’re the Greatest Threat Ever™."

You have a great point- however, I never heard anything about Al Queada, crucifying people. These guys seem pretty depraved.

18 posted on 10/06/2014 9:43:33 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Barak Hussein Obama (Baghdad Barry)- the first step into a thousand years of darkness.)
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To: Bettyprob
Bombing Assad to topple ISIS makes as much sense as allowing people from West Africa to roam freely in the U.S. to fight Ebola.

So, what's the plan?

Neocons arm islamofascists wherever they find them.

If there are none, they import them and then prop them up.

ISIS = IISS = $

They offed Gaddafi because he interfered with their maniacal plan to turn entire ME into Islamofascist caliphate. Under their control, the arms from Libya stockpiles went to arm Hamas and newly created ISIS. Nothing new - British Empire invented Wahhabism and Gamma Islamiya (Muslim Brotherhood).

When neocons failed miserably to attack Syria openly and their "opposition forces" made of AQ and other assorted scum failed to topple Assad, they stepped up efforts to create ISIS/ISIL/ and attack Syria under the smokescreen of bombing ISIS/ISIL.

Average voter has Florida temperature IQ and can not show Syria on the map, let alone understand what is going on.

19 posted on 10/06/2014 9:44:29 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Pining_4_TX
I’m not anti-war. I’m anti-stupid war.

Amen to that. What galls me is that we're broke and these guys want to go shopping, all the while pontificating about "thrift."

20 posted on 10/06/2014 9:49:10 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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