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America Under Cultural Dhimmitude
The American Conservative ^ | September 9, 2014 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 09/12/2014 8:16:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

This morning I received a long e-mail from a reader who works in management at a major corporation. I can’t share anything from it now — maybe he and I can work out something whereby I can share a version of his letter while protecting his privacy — but it’s enough to say that he gave me a detailed account of how the bureaucracy in his company is collecting more and more data on its employees at the same time it’s tightening the screws on the internal culture of diversity. He said that traditional Christians are going deep into the closet there. If you don’t sign up as an LGBT “ally,” they know. No matter how openly supportive you may be of LGBT employees, the company is keeping track of who identifies as an “ally” openly, and who doesn’t.

It doesn’t take a paranoid to see where this is going. It just takes someone who has worked for a corporation, and who has seen how powerful the phrase “hostile work environment” can be.

It’s not “persecution.” But it is something. And it is real.

Ed Stetzer, writing in Christianity Today, observes that InterVarsity Christian Fellowship has been “derecognized” by the California State University system:

IVCF has been derecognized because they require their leaders to have Christian beliefs.

It’s not just InterVarsity that will be impacted. Following the same logic, any group that insists on requiring its leaders to follow an agreed upon set of guiding beliefs is no longer kosher (irony intended) at California’s state universities. This will impact many other faith-based organizations with actual, well, faith-based beliefs. Presumably, even People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals would have to allow Oscar Meyer to lead their campus chapters.

Only in a modern American university would this make any sense.

Now, it’s not persecution. Christians are not banned. People can share their faith. But, now, what we once called “equal access” has taken another hit—people of faith do not have equal access to the university community, like the environmentalist club, the LGBT organization, or the chess club.

Stetzer said the bigger issue is the “sanitization” of religious voices from the higher education community:

However, it appears, increasingly, that Evangelical (and Catholic and Mormon) beliefs are the new “racism” to be excluded from the free exchange of ideas at institutions of higher learning. For the safety and academic well-being of university students, Evangelicals must be organizationally separated (by derecognition) away from the scholastic populace.

Cardinal Francis George of Chicago writes about this issue from a Catholic perspective:

Swimming against the tide means limiting one’s access to positions of prestige and power in society. It means that those who choose to live by the Catholic faith will not be welcomed as political candidates to national office, will not sit on editorial boards of major newspapers, will not be at home on most university faculties, will not have successful careers as actors and entertainers. Nor will their children, who will also be suspect. Since all public institutions, no matter who owns or operates them, will be agents of the government and conform their activities to the demands of the official religion, the practice of medicine and law will become more difficult for faithful Catholics. It already means in some States that those who run businesses must conform their activities to the official religion or be fined, as Christians and Jews are fined for their religion in countries governed by Sharia law.

A reader of the tale of two churches, an outside observer, might note that American civil law has done much to weaken and destroy what is the basic unit of every human society, the family. With the weakening of the internal restraints that healthy family life teaches, the State will need to impose more and more external restraints on everyone’s activities. An outside observer might also note that the official religion’s imposing whatever its proponents currently desire on all citizens and even on the world at large inevitably generates resentment. An outside observer might point out that class plays a large role in determining the tenets of the official State religion. “Same-sex marriage,” as a case in point, is not an issue for the poor or those on the margins of society.

How does the tale end? We don’t know. The actual situation is, of course, far more complex than a story plot, and there are many actors and characters, even among the ruling class, who do not want their beloved country to transform itself into a fake church. It would be wrong to lose hope, since there are so many good and faithful people.

Catholics do know, with the certainty of faith, that, when Christ returns in glory to judge the living and the dead, the church, in some recognizable shape or form that is both Catholic and Apostolic, will be there to meet him. There is no such divine guarantee for any country, culture or society of this or any age.

Read the whole thing.

Look, this is coming. This is the new world. This is post-Christian America. You will hear the Law of Merited Impossibility people yelling that this will never happen, but when it does, you people will deserve it, to try to shout down your concerns, and to hide from themselves the illiberal truth of what they’re doing. But it’s happening, and you had better get ready for it, and get your children ready for it, because the people driving this thing believe so strongly in their own virtue. Error has no rights.

UPDATE: Just got an email from the reader who sent me the first one, about his corporation:

As I read that, it sounds more Big Brother for the sake of Big Brother than it is.

It’s more like this:

If you don’t sign up to be a member of the LGBT “ally” group, they notice—especially if you are (or are potentially going to be) a manager. LGBT employees need to be supported by their manager. The manager is the front line with such questions as “I need to have off next Friday because my partner is having surgery” or “do my partner and I qualify for corporate adoption benefits?” If you’re in a same-sex relationship and you don’t know if your manager is an ally, this is a very scary conversation to have. People want to know it’s safe to confide in their manager without fear of being judged.

The company needs to know which managers can be trusted to this end and which can’t. No matter how openly supportive you may be of LGBT employees, the company wants to track of who identifies as an “ally” openly, and who doesn’t. If they don’t count allies and non-allies, they won’t be able to prove things are “improving” nor will they be able to target managers for further inclusion coaching. So, by making it “safer” for some employee demographics to be open about their personal lives, they’re inadvertently closeting others.

Don’t get me wrong. The end game is as Big Brotherish as you present. People need to be made aware of what’s coming. My gut says, however, we need to help people see the logic of how these groups get there. Otherwise we demonize our opponents, making it harder to converse with them and come up with a solution that makes things better.

These people aren’t trying to persecute traditionalists, they just don’t care if they do. Largely, because they’re not aware that their actions are having this effect. They need to talk openly with more traditionalists, and if all the traditionalists just assume that every liberal has it in for them, how will the two sides ever have enough respect for each other to dialog openly?


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Wow.
1 posted on 09/12/2014 8:16:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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They can notice all they want. I have paid the price and no longer give a damn.

I have one homosexual brother dead from AIDS and another homosexual brother terminally ill from AIDS.

They can take their LGTB and CRAM IT. I do not subscribe. Marriage is an sacrament between men and women, and sexual behavior is a choice. No amount of decadence changes that.

The work place is certainly not a place to converse about sexual behavior.


2 posted on 09/12/2014 8:25:03 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When natural law gets so out of whack, the reset must be devastating.

Click the pic to the full-text Free Republic thread.

3 posted on 09/12/2014 8:25:53 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Presumably, even People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals would have to allow Oscar Meyer to lead their campus chapters.

No way this would happen.

Remember, in the NWO some animals are more equal than others.

4 posted on 09/12/2014 8:26:35 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: FlyingEagle

Yeah, what ever happened to professionalism...


5 posted on 09/12/2014 8:28:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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I work at a company that is pushing this same crap. People below management level know what the game is. It really does kill morale. 50% of employees in our group are over age 50 with 25+ years in the business. When we walk out the door with our pensions, the company is going to face a massive internal knowledge gap.


6 posted on 09/12/2014 8:34:52 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Negotiating with Democrats is like negotiating with Hamas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sleep assured that shortly the events in Post 1 come to pass, the events in Post 3 will follow closely thereafter.

I no longer fear it. I expect it.


7 posted on 09/12/2014 8:36:49 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: 11th_VA

People need to see the rape gangs in the UK and know that dhimmitude means looking the other way and offering your daughters up to the Muslims


8 posted on 09/12/2014 8:38:42 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did the company annual mandatory CBT’s a couple of weeks ago.

Unreal what they are pushing in the damn things.

The “diversity training” was right out of communist wanna-be “liberal and progressive” talking points memos.

Social justice, the company will benefit but could never say why, old WHITE men (IKYN, direct quote) running the company based solely on profit motivation because “they have always made money like that” (horrors) and how that was unfair to “the community”, etc.

The sexual harassment segments were 90% queer this, queer that. Very little reference to the “traditional” version of that subject.

When I emailed back the screen-shot of the completed courses I put “Mind conditioning completed” in the subject line.

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9 posted on 09/12/2014 8:39:16 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...

This evil has infected “mainline” church related institutions.

For example, applicants for positions with Lutheran Social Services are required to fill out an on-line “survey” which is really a self-checking personality inventory. About a quarter of the questions pertain to the applicant’s appreciation or lack thereof for “diversity”.

The next version will probably be more specific as to the type of “diversity”.


10 posted on 09/12/2014 8:41:51 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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The good news is that these nihilistic cultural leftists are eventually going to be destroyed, and it's going to be in an ugly way.

The bad news is that it's going to happen only after this country is filled with Mexican Muslims.

11 posted on 09/12/2014 8:44:56 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Yeah, what ever happened to professionalism...”

Isn’t it amazing how many problems are solved or avoided with just basic manners and decency?


12 posted on 09/12/2014 8:46:15 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: lightman

I was adopted through Lutheran Social Services, but that was 1960, so I’m guessing much has changed.


13 posted on 09/12/2014 8:47:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: lightman
Which synod is this particular "social services" affiliated?

Leni

14 posted on 09/12/2014 8:54:56 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
These people aren’t trying to persecute traditionalists

Yes they do. They relish it. They look forward to it with drool.

15 posted on 09/12/2014 9:00:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TLI

we are all Prisoner #6


16 posted on 09/12/2014 9:03:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: MinuteGal

Lutheran Social Services of South Central Pennsylvania.

One of the top officers had pastored an ELCA congregation which had sported the rainbow flag and listed itself on the Lutherans Concerned North America/Goodsoil directory.


17 posted on 09/12/2014 9:04:33 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: GeronL

Unmutual!


18 posted on 09/12/2014 9:11:45 PM PDT by No.6 (www.michigansuibukan.com)
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To: cdcdawg

It is not good enough for them that you may treat these people with all the fairness and compassion in the world -You MUST believe! For now it is just applied external pressure forcing you to comply via group think. Soon you will not be able to get a job without signing that you are in total agreeance with these perverts! No wonder my kids don’t want to bring children into this evil world!


19 posted on 09/12/2014 9:15:11 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Save


20 posted on 09/12/2014 9:16:34 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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