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Sorry Mr. President, ISIS Is 100 Percent Islamic
National Review ^ | 09/11/2014 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 09/11/2014 8:06:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In a televised address on how to address the Islamic State this evening, President Barack Obama declared the organization variously known as ISIS or ISIL to be “not Islamic.”

In making this preposterous claim, Obama joins his two immediate predecessors in pronouncing on what is not Islamic. Bill Clinton called the Taliban treatment of women and children “a terrible perversion of Islam.” George W. Bush deemed that 9/11 and other acts of violence against innocents “violate the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith.”

None of the three has any basis for such assertions. To state the obvious: As non-Muslims and politicians, rather than Muslims and scholars, they are in no position to declare what is Islamic and what is not. As Bernard Lewis, a leading American authority of Islam, notes: “It is surely presumptuous for those who are not Muslims to say what is orthodox and what is heretical in Islam.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: isis; isisisislamic; islam; islamicisis; obamaisisspeech
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1 posted on 09/11/2014 8:07:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

President Obolo can say anything he wants.


2 posted on 09/11/2014 8:09:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: SeekAndFind

This should be the headline of every media outlet this morning.

The person with the most access to information in the world has not only denied his own beliefs, but now denies the nature of the biggest threat to world peace.

He will not say anything bad about Islam no matter how many are killed for being non-believers.


3 posted on 09/11/2014 8:11:57 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: SeekAndFind

His mind has been in utopia so long it thinks it’s real.


4 posted on 09/11/2014 8:12:48 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind

Tom Ridge just said Obama should stop using Fiction Writers , LOL


5 posted on 09/11/2014 8:13:13 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: SeekAndFind

‘ISIL IS NOT ISLAMIC’ was the part of the speech Obama felt most passionate about... Obama needs to tell the thousands of people around the world who are members of ISIS that.... they don’t seem to be in on the secret.


6 posted on 09/11/2014 8:15:20 AM PDT by GOPJ ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: SeekAndFind

Only a fellow muslim would say Isil is not islamic....

Think if it in terms of a Christian saying members of the KKK aren’t Christians...


7 posted on 09/11/2014 8:17:23 AM PDT by Popman (Jesus Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d like to see the long line of imams standing up to declare them apostate.

Until then, since they are working to establish the Islamic Caliphate, I’d have to take them at their word.

And this is the problem. Muslims acting with confidence and authority are a powerful magnet to the less-confident and less committed. There is no bright line separating the “moderate” from the jihadist. We have to attract muslims to work with us to destroy the jihadists and we have to attract muslim countries to give us staging ground and bases.

So we have to recognize the existence of muslims who are decent. But we shouldn’t get into the weeds trying to decide what is and isn’t Islam, let them do that.

We should present what is good and right and righteous and contrast it clearly against what is not. We can’t do that trying to speak for Islam. We can do that speaking as Americans whose views are firmly rooted in a Christian world view. It is this Christian foundation that even makes it possible for us to be the magnet we need to be in the opposite direction. Hiding our Christianity only makes our job harder if not ultimately impossible.


8 posted on 09/11/2014 8:17:36 AM PDT by marron
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama’s “war” is doomed from the start. You can’t fight an enemy that you refuse to properly identify.

Of course, this is all just a sham, anyway.


9 posted on 09/11/2014 8:17:40 AM PDT by caligatrux (...some animals are more equal than others.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is an important psychological point for Obama. For him to order white, infidel, Christian pilots to bomb Muslim jihadists, however barbaric they may be, is very problematic for him. He is able to to it if he labels them “not Islamic”. Best that can be expected from Obama. It is yet to be seen if he maintains his focus and determination. Last night he wanted to destroy ISIS, tomorrow he may not. Obama confuses rhetoric with leadership and accomplishment.


10 posted on 09/11/2014 8:17:52 AM PDT by allendale
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To: SeekAndFind

The practices of ISIL (including the murders, tortures, enslavements and genocides) represent the VERY ESSENCE OF ISLAM. Anyone who says different is either abysmally ignorant or willfully lying. Obama is in the 2nd category.


11 posted on 09/11/2014 8:18:12 AM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: SeekAndFind

These islamo fascists tell us that they are doing what they do in the name of Islam. Terrorists shout Allah Akbar (sp),as they blow themselves and innocent people up.

These people are fanatical Muslims. We are intentionally misstating what the threat is. Is this because we want to prove we are liberal? Because we look at the world in a certain way, and think that Islam is a religion of peace? What the heck????


12 posted on 09/11/2014 8:18:12 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: morphing libertarian

You can’t defeat that which you are even unwilling to call by its proper name.


13 posted on 09/11/2014 8:20:02 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Clinton / Bush 2016?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The King speaks so it must be true!


14 posted on 09/11/2014 8:20:54 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“..but Obama has dared to declare an entire organization (and quasi-state) to be “not Islamic.””

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America has to remember that Clinton and Bush are not from Islamic backgrounds. They are not avid protectors of Islam as Obama obviously is, from both actions and his own public statements. It is frightening to realize what is in our Oval Office and that our national security is under his control.


15 posted on 09/11/2014 8:22:13 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: GOPJ

Jihad is to Muslims, the same that
Water is to Baptists.
Speaking in tongues is to Pentecostals.
The Rosary is for Catholics
The Law of Moses is for Jews
And the No Hell doctrine is for Jehovahs Witnesses. It is one of 5 Cardinal Beliefs. All good Muslims will believe in Jihad. Get used to it.


16 posted on 09/11/2014 8:22:39 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: SeekAndFind
Looks like 0bama’s plan has already failed.

http://www.debka.com/article/24262/Grave-setbacks-for-Obama%E2%80%99s-strategy-Turkey-backs-out-of-US-led-war-on-IS-Germany-UK-say-no-to-air-campaign

17 posted on 09/11/2014 8:23:57 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He knows it. He doesn’t want the American public to know it. Look. Anyone who hasn’t figured it out by now is a complete a$$hole.


18 posted on 09/11/2014 8:28:39 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: mountainlion

Be careful citing Debka...

I this article, they are flat wrong about UK not wanting an air campaign, they are leading the charge.

I don’t trust Turkey, either.


19 posted on 09/11/2014 8:30:28 AM PDT by gandalftb (Go Seahawks!)
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To: House Atreides
You are spot on with your assessment! Isn't it ironic that the Bombing of the World Trade Center, the Hijackings on 9/11, the attacks and bombings carried out by Bin Laden, etc. are all done in the name of Islam but our dumb-ass CIC wants to say ISIL doesn't represent Islam..... Last time I checked the “so called religion of peace” has carried out some horrific acts of violence! But you know, we have to protect the Homeland from the radical Catholics and Tea Partiers.....
20 posted on 09/11/2014 8:30:51 AM PDT by martinidon
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