[lbryce]

Representatives of two counties in far Northern California petitioned state officials Thursday for the right to form a 51st state called Jefferson, but I don't see the even the most infinitesimal modicum for consideration of their proposal. I am sure there are alternate legal approaches other than seeking permission from State officials for these counties to attempt to break away. But this being an unprecedented circumstance, it no doubt will be a long, arduous legal road ahead for any sort of progress made on the matter.

The bottom line is that it is rather obvious that the underlying, fundamental dynamics for these two counties to seek the creation of their own state is a a direct result of Obama, his policies, his desire to create as much havoc, dysfunction and upheaval in whatever way he can. His policies, especially regarding immigration, has directly impacted the political ramifications by these two counties in consideration of this move.

[SeeSharp]

The filings were the first step in building a legal case that supporters believe will allow them to secede from California. They say the U.S. Constitution allows a region to petition the government for secession. If lawmakers ignore the petition, Jefferson proponents say it will give them standing to file a lawsuit.

Sue in what venue? Article IV Section 3 gives state legislatures the power to veto the creation of new states from their territory. The courts have nothing to say about it.

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

[Doug Loss]

I am sure there are alternate legal approaches other than seeking permission from State officials for these counties to attempt to break away.

No, there isn't. The US Constitution is very clear on that.

[pepsionice]

I think in general....the public has come to realize that one-size-fits-all in terms of state governments...doesn’t work.

I could see a reason to open up a split season....move to seventy-five states...dump the necessity for US senators...and eliminate several methods from which the Supreme Court throws itself into state matters.

Anyone who lives in California will tell you that the current state government is dysfunctional and unable to represent regular state residents. It’s a lobbyist-government and geared toward wealth redistribution more than anything else.

[jmaroneps37]

Four more Democrat Senators?

[DoodleDawg]

I am sure there are alternate legal approaches other than seeking permission from State officials for these counties to attempt to break away.

Not under the Constitution, no.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

There is already a Break-up California bid on the ballot, I believe.

There were more than enough signatures, on the “Break up California into 6 states” bid.

I think that is going to be voted on. Already.

No?

[Dr. Thorne]

Starting to think we should consider this in North Idaho.

[a fool in paradise]

Modoc and Siskiyou counties, which share a border with Oregon and have a combined population of about 53,000

Barking moonbats want 2 Senators and a House Rep. for 53,000 people?

Go screw.

[Tzimisce]

They’re NOT going to cut California up.

California gives 50 some odd electoral votes to Democrats every election cycle.

They’re NOT going to give that up.

[Carry_Okie]

The bottom line is that it is rather obvious that the underlying, fundamental dynamics for these two counties to seek the creation of their own state is a a direct result of Obama, his policies, his desire to create as much havoc, dysfunction and upheaval in whatever way he can. His policies, especially regarding immigration, has directly impacted the political ramifications by these two counties in consideration of this move.

The desire for a State of Jefferson goes back to the 1930s.

[Monorprise]

They should let Eastern California in on it.

[TheFourthBranch]

I am sure there are alternate legal approaches other than seeking permission from State officials for these counties to attempt to break away.

Article IV Section III of the U.S. Constitution states the following: "New States maybe admitted by the Congress to this Union, but no State can be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State without consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned, as well as of the Congress."

[VR-21]

It seems that there’s a real weariness among people in the country of having their lives and property controlled by the criminals, communists, perverts and parasites who predominate in the urban areas. A simplification perhaps, but I’ve come to regard large segments of American society as TWANLOC. It’s no longer fixable folks.

[Impy]

The only way the “good” counties of Cali could ever be freed from the Sacramento regime is by getting semi-violent about it, demanding, rather than asking. I doubt many people have the will for such a thing, at least not at this point. If Cali continues along the path it’s on....who knows.