Posted on 08/28/2014 5:10:41 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
MONROVIA, Liberia — Some people are swimming in and out of the Ebola quarantine zone in this seaside capital. One man slips out every day to reach his job at a Western embassy. Another has turned his living room into a tollbooth, charging others to escape through his apartment at the edge of the cordoned area. Countless others have used a different method: bribing their way out with fees that soldiers determine according to a person’s appearance, circumstances and even gender.
Christian Verre, a 26-year-old clothing salesman, sneaked out through an abandoned building with his girlfriend, Alice Washington, 21, and eight friends. “Go back! Go back!” soldiers and police officers yelled, he recalled, but the conversation quickly took on a different turn: “What do you got?”
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Ebola scares me to death, after I read that book about the Reston outbreak, and all the other info in it about some of the outbreaks, and the research of “hot” stuff at Level 4 containment.
I hope there’s no way it can mutate into surviving chlorine.LOL
No, not at all. I presume one of the explanations for the episodic non-pandemic nature of Ebola is that it mutates frequently.
Just remember, though, that most mutations are harmful to the organism, and that mutations that both increase fitness AND confer increased lethality are very, very rare.
This is like the famously "inevitable" H5N1 mutation that has been "just around the corner" since 1997. Think of it as a slot machine with 18,959 windows (that's the number of base pairs in the EHFV genome). Getting the right combination to confer INCREASED transmissibility while not otherwise harming lethality could occur - just as I could win Powerball Saturday night.
Don't mistake me - I would have closed the West African airports (including Bamako) 3 weeks ago. If we get into trouble quickly, Bamako will be the source. This is easily the worst public health crisis in any of our lifetimes.
But the idea of a random (and not useful) mutation turning the US into Sierra Leone is not on my top 100 concerns about this event.
Chlorine kills Ebola virus.
Chlorine does not kill cryptosporidium. That can cause nasty diarrhea.
You have reminded me of why I hardly ever swim. I used to love going to pools as a child. The knowledge of too many microbiology classes inhibits me now.
The quarantine is for waiting for symptoms to appear after an exposure. A person who is sick can be tested; there is a specific protocol for establishing that they have truly recovered and can leave the hospital. They should, however, avoid breastfeeding and intimate acts for several weeks afterwards.
The virus cannot mutate very rapidly, due to its physical structure. If it were to become airborne (unlikely), it would be a huge problem. It does not spread easily in its current form--as you noted, practices here in the US do not favor its spread.
That’s awful. I would also be worried if he had come from somewhere where TB is a problem. A normal healthy person should not have that much phlegm to cough up.
Mrs. AV
If the CDC is expecting 20,000 American cases, we will likely get 20 million.
This Ebola virus is highly deadly to populations with a combination of High Crime, Rampant Political Corruption and “Low-Trust’ civic cultures.
That is a description of West Africa...and American urban city centers with large numbers of drug addicts and gangs.
Drug addicts cannot be kept from stealing from the Ebola sick or using Ebola contaminated property because they are by definition completely irrational when they are looking for their next drug fix.
The American Federal government's commitment to open lawless borders and urban core Democratic voters means there is very little chance of preventing Ebola from getting rampantly spread to those kind of places, and Federal resources will be over committed to such ‘lost cause’ areas long past the point when those resources could be better used save lives elsewhere.
And you can count on Federal Judges interfering with local and state public health quarantine efforts if they are directed at illegal aliens or minority communities with powerful political patrons in D.C.
Communist China is in there taking the resources - and they're paying for them just like everyone else has done... forever. Can you give me some examples of 'seized' resources from Africa? You do know that's a communist talking point, don't you?
There’s all kinds of nasties that he could have. It really makes me regret not building a pool years ago when our kids were young. Hubby wanted to, but I didn’t want to mess with the upkeep.
A few years ago, I mentioned it for the grand kids, and he was the one that said no. So there we are. I’d be happy with just a lap pool about 4 ft. deep all over - enclosed of course, so that we could use it in the winter too. Not likely to happen though.
Is that the nasty bug that Ohio recently had problems with?
You definitely need to talk to management right now. Call them. Don’t wait until the next time you swim. I’d have immediately had a come to Jesus meeting with Mr. Phlegm. Granted, people pee in the pool and you’re swimming around gulping water that has swished around everyone else’s buttocks, but he doesn’t need to add to the ick.
I have no doubt that the globalist ptb have that as a possible or even positive scenerio. They can go in on a "humanitarian mission" and bury the dead and take over. Might be thinking the death toll won't be any worse than with the wars the globalist elite ptb manipulated for in Libya, Egypt, Iraq, and now Syria.
It disgusts me that human beings are treated as a cash crop to be manipulated for power and money. It also scares me. People aren't going to turn themselves in if they have symptoms. They're going to stay away from quarantines, hide, and escape if they suspect they're being left for dead. When (not if) the disease morphs and gets into refugee camps, areas in turmoil because of recreational warmongering, and perhaps spreads though water or air, what then? It's possible it'll be something of Biblical proportions that thins the human herd way beyond anything sustainable, over vast swaths of the globe. What if it morphs faster than the elite can come up with private stock vaccines to save themselves?
There are just too many crises going on for them all to turn out well, or for them not to have further negative impacts when their effects combine. I don't think I'm being paranoid. This time, stuff just feels different and less in control.
Give me fish pee in lakes and oceans any day over human pee in pools no matter how much chlorine they dump in.
I do not know of a specific cryptosporidium outbreak in Ohio, but it does pop up on occasion. Often, it is a problem in daycare centers, since one child can easily spread it to every other child. I heard about one outbreak where the water used to water the lawns in a public park had been contaminated by an infected child running through the sprinkler. They would capture the run-off water, disinfect it, and sprinkle it on the lawns again, but the disinfection process had broken down, so the bug contaminated the entire tank of reclaimed water.
Ohio has had a few outbreaks of nasty things in the last year or so. Right now, mumps and measles are a problem.
What I am thinking of was related to some algae toxin. Usual methods of purification such as boiling wouldn’t work.
I don't think viruses make random mutations. They always seem to have a purpose.
Well... unless the clinic has WIFI, they probably won't go.
Well, I’d have to try swimming in one first.
When I was in 6th grade my parents built a pool in the back yard. It didn’t occupy very much space, but was sufficient for most kinds of swimming even laps, though you would have to turn lots quicker than in a larger pool.
Thing is, my husband has the knowledge and skills to build our own, so the cost wouldn’t be near as much. He also built our house and our daughter’s house, so enclosing it wouldn’t be a problem either.
We’d have to sell some property to finance it though, and I’d probably rather settle for a Walmart pool for a few hundred bucks. The grandkids would like it just as well. LOL
Well, I’d have to try swimming in one first.
When I was in 6th grade my parents built a pool in the back yard. It didn’t occupy very much space, but was sufficient for most kinds of swimming even laps, though you would have to turn lots quicker than in a larger pool.
Thing is, my husband has the knowledge and skills to build our own, so the cost wouldn’t be near as much. He also built our house and our daughter’s house, so enclosing it wouldn’t be a problem either.
We’d have to sell some property to finance it though, and I’d probably rather settle for a Walmart pool for a few hundred bucks. The grandkids would like it just as well. LOL
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