Posted on 08/09/2014 6:15:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I must offer this premise. There is no easy way out nor an easy path to follow. But we are indeed down a path, one that attacks the Sunni backed ISIS. We now have picked sides in a religious war.
What must be realized in this region of the world, the Mideast, is that borders drawn by westerners are of little matter to they who live in the region. And that is precisely what the national delineations are, lines drawn by westerners.
From the SykesPicot Agreement which in a fatigued fog resulting from WW I drew up the borders of several countries of the Mideast, to the Balfour Declaration which established Israel, these border formalities come in a distant second to the religious sect affiliations of the Sunnis, Shites and Kurds.
It will be ever thus, a continuation of what has been ever thus. Yet somehow we believe we must intervene to build a nation or control an area. Folly.
Humanitarian concerns create the complication. What one must ask is why any intervention on our part is not coupled with the Red Cross or the UN. Coupled and complimentary only to the saving of those trapped in the situation.
To insert personnel into regions of religious conflict, then declare we must involve militarily to protect those same people is reminiscent of the Putin game of we must defend our people, therefore we must invade.
ISIS is clearly backed by someone with deep pockets. Logic would lead one to those who are Sunni and those who have the cash to sponsor such activities. Saudi Arabia leaps to mind.
The Sunnis may now gather to create a new enemy of the United States. And when, exactly, does the bombing of ISIS not create the new terrorists that Obama so fears?
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
I don’t care, then, as long as we wipe them out.
Nothing’s temporary there. Iran is one of the “pretenders” to the Caliphate also, remember. The real enemy is the Caliphate no matter how many heads manifest.
The Current FReepathon Pays For The Current Quarters Expenses?
So let me get this right. We support the Iraq government in the fight against ISIS. We dont like ISIS, but ISIS is supported by Saudi Arabia who we do like. We dont like Assad in Syria. We support the fight against him, but ISIS is also fighting against him. We dont like Iran, but Iran supports the Iraqi government in its fight against ISIS. So some of our friends support our enemies, some enemies are now our friends, and some of our enemies are fighting against our other enemies, who we want to lose, but we dont want our enemies who are fighting our enemies to win. If the people we want to defeat are defeated, they could be replaced by people we like even less, and all this was started by us invading a country to drive out terrorists who were not actually there until we went in to drive them out. I think Ive got it.
Perhaps it's time for the US to rethink its alliances?
This article is a bunch of gobblly goop. American Thinker needs to pick up it’s game.
It’s not a religion.
Had this idiot been around when the Spanish were conquering South America he would have counseled against starting a religious war with the people who were ripping beating hearts out of human beings.
Totally agree.
Islam is at war with civilization. The only people there who should concern us are Christians, Jews, Yazidis, Zoroastrians and other non-Muslims threatened by these maniacs. If the Sunnis and Shiites want to kill each other - give them free bullets.
Have you heard ONE Muslim in the US or elsewhere condemn this persecution of Christians and Yazidis???? NOT ONE! They ALL approve. We should round up all the all the Muslims in America and airdrop them into ISIS territory. Let them kill each other off.
You are aware that the Kurds we are giving air support to are closely allied with Israel? If Israel backs the Kurds (and vice versa) why shouldn't America?
Remember when Iranians hijacked four airliners, crashing three of them into prominent buildings and killing thousands of people? Nope, me either. But I remember when Saudis did that.
I was talking about choosing between ISIS and Iran, primarily; sorry if that was not clear.
The Liberal Stage for all to witness. Ask a lib, "are you safer today than 7 years ago?"
Ask a lib anything and they are likely to go ballistic because they are in charge and have no answer for anything. The Nation is broke,the poor are poorer, the weak are weaker, and I've just saved 15% on my Car insurance.
We need to kick ass because it pleases us.
I’ve heard it said several times on this thread that Islam is at war with civilization. But what does that really mean? What is civilization? To build a civilization, people must be able to live and work together. Rules are established as a framework that everyone is able operate under. Laws based on Judeo-Christian principles provide the framework to allow a society to flourish. The vast majority of people in the USA don’t understand the roots of how this society was established and take this for granted. They don’t understand how unique and special it is.
Islam does not have this moral grounding. It is unfamiliar to them and a concept that they do not understand. This is why their societies remain in the stone age. Christians are referred to as the salt of the earth, meaning that they are the stabilizing moral force preventing lawlessness. Islam is the absence of any stabilizing force.
Islam is at war with civilization. They look at us as weak. All cultures are not equal. Islam is the epitome of evil and the absence of God. Thou shalt not kill is not a principle that Muslems live by. They are actually commanded to kill infidels, not love thy neighbors. Quite the contrast. This is a war between good and evil.
ps - COEXIST bumper stickers really piss me off..
RE: Perhaps it’s time for the US to rethink its alliances?
Several things are clear to me:
1) Kurdistan is out friend. They are willing to fight and protect their region.
2) They need to be independent and stable. Therefore, we must help them achieve that.
3) We need to protect the Christians and peaceful minorities like the Yazidis in Iraq.
The rest are complex and need rethinking.
and oh yeah one more thing — I don’t care whether it helps Iran or Syria or not, ISIS needs to be wiped out off the face of the earth.
The sooner, the better.
+1
a pox on both their houses.
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Agreed.
Yeah. I think we should let religious fanatics kill everyone else, then that will end religious wars.
I hear ya. But I’m more concerned with what the Iranians might do with nukes.
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