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We have officially picked a side in a Religious War
American Thinker ^ | 08/09/2014 | James Longstreet

Posted on 08/09/2014 6:15:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

I must offer this premise. There is no easy way out nor an easy path to follow. But we are indeed down a path, one that attacks the Sunni backed ISIS. We now have picked sides in a religious war.

What must be realized in this region of the world, the Mideast, is that borders drawn by westerners are of little matter to they who live in the region. And that is precisely what the national delineations are, lines drawn by westerners.

From the Sykes–Picot Agreement which in a fatigued fog resulting from WW I drew up the borders of several countries of the Mideast, to the Balfour Declaration which established Israel, these border formalities come in a distant second to the religious sect affiliations of the Sunnis, Shites and Kurds.

It will be ever thus, a continuation of what has been… ever thus. Yet somehow we believe we must intervene to build a nation or control an area. Folly.

Humanitarian concerns create the complication. What one must ask is why any intervention on our part is not coupled with the Red Cross or the UN. Coupled and complimentary only to the saving of those trapped in the situation.

To insert personnel into regions of religious conflict, then declare we must involve militarily to protect those same people is reminiscent of the Putin game of “we must defend our people”, therefore we must invade.

ISIS is clearly backed by someone with deep pockets. Logic would lead one to those who are Sunni and those who have the cash to sponsor such activities. Saudi Arabia leaps to mind.

The Sunnis may now gather to create a new enemy of the United States. And when, exactly, does the bombing of ISIS not create the “new terrorists” that Obama so fears?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bhogwot; bhomiddleeast; idiot; iraq; iraqichristians; isis; islam; jihad; notpayingattention; sunni
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To: P-Marlowe

I don’t care, then, as long as we wipe them out.


21 posted on 08/09/2014 7:09:15 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: SeekAndFind

Nothing’s temporary there. Iran is one of the “pretenders” to the Caliphate also, remember. The real enemy is the Caliphate no matter how many heads manifest.


22 posted on 08/09/2014 7:11:20 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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23 posted on 08/09/2014 7:16:22 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: SeekAndFind
Awhile back, when ISIS was just beginning to take Iraq, an astute Englishman made this observation:
So let me get this right. We support the Iraq government in the fight against ISIS. We don’t like ISIS, but ISIS is supported by Saudi Arabia who we do like. We don’t like Assad in Syria. We support the fight against him, but ISIS is also fighting against him. We don’t like Iran, but Iran supports the Iraqi government in its fight against ISIS. So some of our friends support our enemies, some enemies are now our friends, and some of our enemies are fighting against our other enemies, who we want to lose, but we don’t want our enemies who are fighting our enemies to win. If the people we want to defeat are defeated, they could be replaced by people we like even less, and all this was started by us invading a country to drive out terrorists who were not actually there until we went in to drive them out. I think I’ve got it.

Perhaps it's time for the US to rethink its alliances?

24 posted on 08/09/2014 7:21:53 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: SeekAndFind

This article is a bunch of gobblly goop. American Thinker needs to pick up it’s game.


25 posted on 08/09/2014 7:24:11 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s not a religion.


26 posted on 08/09/2014 7:27:38 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: BenLurkin

Had this idiot been around when the Spanish were conquering South America he would have counseled against starting a religious war with the people who were ripping beating hearts out of human beings.


27 posted on 08/09/2014 7:30:56 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: BenLurkin

Totally agree.

Islam is at war with civilization. The only people there who should concern us are Christians, Jews, Yazidis, Zoroastrians and other non-Muslims threatened by these maniacs. If the Sunnis and Shiites want to kill each other - give them free bullets.

Have you heard ONE Muslim in the US or elsewhere condemn this persecution of Christians and Yazidis???? NOT ONE! They ALL approve. We should round up all the all the Muslims in America and airdrop them into ISIS territory. Let them kill each other off.


28 posted on 08/09/2014 7:34:14 AM PDT by ZULU (Go REDSKINS!!! Impeach Obamar in 2015 !!!)
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To: Olog-hai
We once had the wherewithal to not have to choose between those two. We should have picked Israel, naturally.

You are aware that the Kurds we are giving air support to are closely allied with Israel? If Israel backs the Kurds (and vice versa) why shouldn't America?

29 posted on 08/09/2014 7:44:07 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: rbg81
I think the Saudis are slightly better, but still an enemy. They still want to destroy us, but are much more subtle about it. But....a pox on both their houses.

Remember when Iranians hijacked four airliners, crashing three of them into prominent buildings and killing thousands of people? Nope, me either. But I remember when Saudis did that.

30 posted on 08/09/2014 7:46:12 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

I was talking about choosing between ISIS and Iran, primarily; sorry if that was not clear.


31 posted on 08/09/2014 7:48:05 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SeekAndFind
Obama: ‘We’re Leaving Behind a Sovereign, Stable and Self-Reliant Iraq’

The Liberal Stage for all to witness. Ask a lib, "are you safer today than 7 years ago?"

Ask a lib anything and they are likely to go ballistic because they are in charge and have no answer for anything. The Nation is broke,the poor are poorer, the weak are weaker, and I've just saved 15% on my Car insurance.

32 posted on 08/09/2014 8:17:05 AM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: Don Corleone

We need to kick ass because it pleases us.


33 posted on 08/09/2014 8:25:08 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: ZULU

I’ve heard it said several times on this thread that Islam is at war with civilization. But what does that really mean? What is civilization? To build a civilization, people must be able to live and work together. Rules are established as a framework that everyone is able operate under. Laws based on Judeo-Christian principles provide the framework to allow a society to flourish. The vast majority of people in the USA don’t understand the roots of how this society was established and take this for granted. They don’t understand how unique and special it is.

Islam does not have this moral grounding. It is unfamiliar to them and a concept that they do not understand. This is why their societies remain in the stone age. Christians are referred to as the salt of the earth, meaning that they are the stabilizing moral force preventing lawlessness. Islam is the absence of any stabilizing force.

Islam is at war with civilization. They look at us as weak. All cultures are not equal. Islam is the epitome of evil and the absence of God. Thou shalt not kill is not a principle that Muslems live by. They are actually commanded to kill infidels, not love thy neighbors. Quite the contrast. This is a war between good and evil.

ps - COEXIST bumper stickers really piss me off..


34 posted on 08/09/2014 8:31:24 AM PDT by Sodbuster
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To: logician2u

RE: Perhaps it’s time for the US to rethink its alliances?

Several things are clear to me:

1) Kurdistan is out friend. They are willing to fight and protect their region.

2) They need to be independent and stable. Therefore, we must help them achieve that.

3) We need to protect the Christians and peaceful minorities like the Yazidis in Iraq.

The rest are complex and need rethinking.


35 posted on 08/09/2014 9:03:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: logician2u

and oh yeah one more thing — I don’t care whether it helps Iran or Syria or not, ISIS needs to be wiped out off the face of the earth.

The sooner, the better.


36 posted on 08/09/2014 9:05:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: BenLurkin

+1


37 posted on 08/09/2014 9:18:28 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: rbg81

a pox on both their houses.

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Agreed.


38 posted on 08/09/2014 9:19:55 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah. I think we should let religious fanatics kill everyone else, then that will end religious wars.


39 posted on 08/09/2014 9:20:37 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Alter Kaker

I hear ya. But I’m more concerned with what the Iranians might do with nukes.


40 posted on 08/09/2014 9:22:55 AM PDT by rbg81
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