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Shooter's Parents Sped to Try to Stop Him
Newser ^ | May 26, 2014 | Rob Quinn

Posted on 05/26/2014 3:09:55 AM PDT by Enterprise

"When Elliot Rodger's parents realized just how dangerous their disturbed son was, they made a desperate attempt to try to stop him. They received a copy of his 141-page manifesto and saw a YouTube video outlining his plans for his "Day of Retribution" on Friday night and called 911 before rushing to Santa Barbara in separate cars, a family friend tells the New York Daily News. They heard about the shooting spree while they were on their way. "They were hoping against hope," the friend says. "They are in inconceivable pain."

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"He had been in therapy since childhood, but turned his back on mental health care when he turned 18. He had no criminal history, never explicitly threatened others, and even when his worried parents requested police check on him, deputies found no reason to place him in an involuntary psychiatric hold."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: criminallyinsane; elliotrodger; knifingattacks; massmurderer; roger; rogers; santabarbara; shootings; stabbings; suvrampage; vehicularassault; video
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To: annieokie

“Then seeing the raging father spew that hatred toward the NRA and gun owners???”

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That was the father of a victim.

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81 posted on 05/26/2014 7:06:35 AM PDT by Mears
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To: PeterPrinciple; livius
Hits home here. My wife gives music lessons and the parent of a student confided with her about concerns of safety (paranoia) from her husband. It was apparent that she was delusional. The police were notified and interviewed my wife and my wife told them it wasn't her safety, but her to watch out for because she was sick, ill, deranged, etc. Well, the mother stabbed and beat the husband. The child was spared. Police said they couldn't do anything. She's been incarcerated for half a year now. No medical help. Shes been in hospitals before. Granted the husband dealt with her illness privately, but the shame (E European) got him killed. Sad...
82 posted on 05/26/2014 7:08:14 AM PDT by endthematrix (The Name of the Game is BAILOUT.)
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To: Westbrook

“Medication works as long as they are faithful to take it.”

My ex’s thyroid went hyper on her. She had meds to take. But when she missed/skipped a dose, she got VERY energetic, and she liked that. So she’d keep skipping her meds. After she’d been awake for a few days, I was afraid to stay in the same house with her!


83 posted on 05/26/2014 7:08:15 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Westbrook

exactly. Once a disturbed person reaches the age of 18, there’s not much a parent CAN do. I know some folks who are going through this horror currently. Their son has been in and out of rehab/mental facilities for years. They only keep him long enough to get him back on the meds he stops taking after a few weeks/months. It’s a vicious cycle and parents hands are tied. There IS no magic fairy dust to cure mentally ill patients and pretty much no facilities will keep them unless they become violet. Then it’s often too late as in this case.


84 posted on 05/26/2014 7:09:04 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: livius

“and I would assume the reason that their names did not appear in the press was that it would have been a violation of confidentiality.”

Their names were on-line last night.

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85 posted on 05/26/2014 7:09:11 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Teacher317

I’m thinking it would make a good screensaver!


86 posted on 05/26/2014 7:10:00 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: over3Owithabrain
What’s the chubby soroiorty? Pi Eta Mora?

I think it was Omega Moo

87 posted on 05/26/2014 7:10:43 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: SamAdams76

The Kennedy women turned out okay,it was just the men who were pathetic.

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88 posted on 05/26/2014 7:11:18 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Strange, but when walking behind women, I tend to notice them too!


89 posted on 05/26/2014 7:17:21 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: usconservative

I’d say if they knew he was nuts and funded the gun purchases then yes they are liable.


90 posted on 05/26/2014 7:23:36 AM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: Hardastarboard

You don’t even need swords.

Somebody with 3 feet of 1/2” steel cable that you can buy at any hardware store would be almost impossible for the average person(s) to stop.


91 posted on 05/26/2014 7:28:25 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Mears

The names were bound to be published eventually, but they may have had to get permission from the next of kin or some such thing. I can’t remember the name of the group that supposedly runs the apartment or apartments. It appeared in the early reports (possibly in the British press?).

Rodgers had apparently done what he described as a “citizens’ arrest” of one of his roommates, claiming that the man had stolen $22 worth of candles from him. The police put the man in a cell overnight (probably for his own protection, the way they do in domestic violence cases). And there was another earlier call from Rodgers to the police about some weird thing. So the police were familiar with him and his roommates; I’m surprised that the police interview with him didn’t reveal the fact that he was about to snap, but he was probably pretty accomplished in faking out therapists and LE and knew what to say to seem “normal.”


92 posted on 05/26/2014 7:30:55 AM PDT by livius
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To: endthematrix

Very sad. There’s really not much the police can do - until after the fact. But at least she didn’t go after your wife. Paranoids sit around and imagine hidden messages in casual conversations and then they obsess on something, and you never know who or what they’re going to obsess on next.


93 posted on 05/26/2014 7:33:42 AM PDT by livius
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Absolutely ridiculous. It is almost as if the gun levitated and started chasing people down and shooting them.


94 posted on 05/26/2014 7:37:43 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Hawthorn
Or what say we blame the therapy?

Hasn't the last 12 mass murders been by people currently or recently under the care of a psychologist or therapist? Oh, right, much easier to demand everyone disarm.

95 posted on 05/26/2014 7:52:50 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: FlJoePa

Gee, not one Black Girl in that Sorority.

Must be an oversight.


96 posted on 05/26/2014 7:56:16 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Cancer were Contagious, they would call it Liberalism...)
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To: Mears

OH, thanks for the correction.


97 posted on 05/26/2014 7:58:28 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: Hardastarboard

One of the victim’s father was blaming the NRA not the elder Rodger.


98 posted on 05/26/2014 8:22:03 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Mouton

I lived there in there in the early 2000s. Beautiful scenery, weather. People sucked.


99 posted on 05/26/2014 8:30:13 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Undecided 2012
I’d say if they knew he was nuts and funded the gun purchases then yes they are liable.

I don't see anywhere where they purchased the gun for him, but you raise an interesting point: If it was known that he was mentally unstable and likely to hurt someone (his therapist likely knew and if CA is like other states that would have to be reported to the State) then doesn't that just increase the State of California's liability? Or perhaps that of the Therapist?

Seems to me that would further insulate the parents --- but I'm no lawyer and don't know California law. Just trying to use some common sense and reason (which again, may not apply in the land of fruits and flakes known as California.)

100 posted on 05/26/2014 8:30:19 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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