Posted on 04/17/2014 4:37:40 AM PDT by TurboZamboni
Key members of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform expressed outrage at revelations made in newly released emails showing ex-IRS official Lois Lerner coordinating with the Department of Justice on prosecuting nonprofit groups.
One committee member said the emails prove why the IRS is “scared to give up the rest of Lois Lerner’s emails.” IRS commissioner John Koskinen was recently threatened with contempt for stonewalling the committee’s investigation. Koskinen claimed in a hearing that it could take years to provide the documents requested by Oversight.
“The release of new documents underscores the political nature of IRS Tea Party targeting and the extent to which supposed apolitical officials took direction from elected Democrats,” Oversight chairman Rep. Darrell Issa said in a statement. “These e-mails are part of an overwhelming body of evidence that political pressure from prominent Democrats led to the targeting of Americans for their political beliefs.”
“Now I see why the IRS is scared to give up the rest of Lois Lerner’s emails,” said Oversight Economic Growth subcommittee chairman Rep. Jim Jordan.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
> Technical question:
In such an investigation, how is it possible to be sure that no emails are overlooked?
Does the email server provide a catalog of all emails in order to check for gaps?
Freek Squad?
Indufficient information aviailable to make an intelligent statement that has any real meaning. Emails are probbly on any computer she had access to, the email server, and the other computers she sentbthem to. Thats - real general statement but probably correct.
IIRC, it is illegal, or at least a fireable offense, to use personal emails to conduct gov’t business,
because, inherently, such use is intended to avoid scrutiny of things that need scrutinized.
The 4th protects "the people," NOT the government (Lois Lerner is the government).
We, the people have rights.
The government has powers.......powers given to them BY THE PEOPLE.
It is only actionable against peons like us.
“When will someone in a position to do something actually DO SOMETHING??”
Not only is there NOT anyone in a position that can do anything, but the drooling press keeps sweeping crap under the rug so that ordinary can know nothing about anything. Can you simply imagine the OUTRAGE from the press if this had happened under the Bush administration?
Richard Nixon didn’t have a melanin-based impeachment shield.
Because Obama identifies as “black”, he is for all practical purposes unaccountable.
Exactly. And who is/was Lois Lerner’s employer?
ALL OF THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL One of the Articles of Impeachment drawn up against Richard Nixon was merely "threatening" to use the Internal Revenue Service to selectively audit political opponents.
OBAMA HAS WEAPONIZED THE IRS AGAINST POLITICAL OPPONENTS ordering multiple covert campaigns of intimidation, threats, and persecution of tea party/conservative organizations, and those daring to criticize Obama's agenda.
<><> Seven lock-stepping Democrats scared-***tless of losing their seats ask the IRS to “Investigate” political opponents,
<><> Rep Elijah Cummings led the Democrat pack in smearing True the Vote patriot Catherine Englebrecht....
<><> the FBI, ATF, the IRS, and OSHA were sicced on Catherine Englebrecht, as she valiantly tried to improve the US voting system.
<><> Obama said Tea Parties were a "threat to democracy."
<><> The IRS (a tax-funded L/E agency) takes its marching orders from Democrat;
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THE LIKELY SUSPECTS----DEMS STOOP TO CONQUEUR
order IRS to act to save their seats by Alexander Bolton, The Hill, 2/13/14
Senate Democrats facing tough elections this year want the IRS to play a more aggressive role in regulating outside groups expected to spend millions of dollars on their races. In the wake of the IRS targeting scandal, the Democrats are publicly prodding the agency instead of lobbying them directly.
Dems are also careful to say the IRS should treat conservative and liberal groups equally, but they’re concerned about an impending tidal wave of attack ads funded by GOP-allied organizations. Much of the funding for those groups is secret, in contrast to the donations lawmakers collect, which must be reported publicly.
One of the most powerful groups is Americans for Prosperity, funded by the billionaire industrialists Charles and David Koch. It has already spent close to $30 million on ads attacking Democrats this election cycle. “If they’re claiming the tax relief, the tax benefit to be a nonprofit for social relief or social justice, then that’s what they should be doing,” said Sen. Mark Begich (D), who faces a competitive race in Alaska. “If it’s to give them cover so they can do political activity, that’s abusing the tax code. And either side."
<><><><>Asked if the IRS should play a more active role policing political advocacy by groups that claim to be focused on social welfare, Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) responded, “Absolutely. Both on the left and the right,” she said. “As taxpayers, we should not be providing a write-off to groups to do political activity, and that’s exactly what we’re doing.”
Shaheen called the glut of political spending by self-described social welfare groups that qualify under section 501(c) (4) of the tax code “outrageous.” Shaheen is in a good position now but could find herself embroiled in a tight campaign if former Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass) challenges her.<><><><>
Sen. Mark Pryor (Ark.), the most vulnerable Democratic incumbent, said the IRS has jurisdiction over 501(c)(4) groups, as well as charities, which fall under section 5/01(c)(3) of the tax code and sometimes engage in quasi-political activity.
“That whole 501(c)(3), 501(c)(4) [issue], those are IRS numbers. It is inherently an internal revenue matter,” he said. “There are two things you don’t want in political money, in the fundraising world and expenditure world. You don’t want secret money, and you don’t want unlimited money, and that’s what we have now.” --SNIP--
This is where your argument falls apart
“unreasonable”
There is nothing unreasonable about this investigation.
Oh... I thought you were the one arguing for her 4th amendment rights. Wasn’t watching the thread close enough.
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--SNIP--The House Ways and Means Committee Republicans have not ruled out its “inherent contempt” authority to arrest former IRS chief Lois Lerner if Eric Holder continues to refuse to act on the panel’s vote to seek an investigation of Lerner and her role in the IRS targeting scandal.
The Washington Examiner reports, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) spoke about the committee’s threat to hold Lerner in contempt: "The Ways and Means Committee, led by Chairman [Dave] Camp [R-Mich.], has conducted a serious and thorough investigation of the IRS, uncovering abuses and criminal acts that should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."
"As I've said, if Lois Lerner continues to refuse to testify, then the House will hold her in contempt. And we will continue to shine the light on the administration's abusive actions and use every tool at our disposal to expose the truth and ensure the American people get the answers they deserve."
The constitutional “inherent contempt” authority gives the House power to hold Lerner until a new Congress is convened in January 2015, which could then renew the subpoena if she continues to refuse to testify, though Republicans are not emphasizing that option.
Rep. Kevin Brady (R-TX) told The Washington Examiner, "I think we'll deal with that, should that occur, but I think this too is an ongoing investigation, and, frankly, for the attorney general to turn a blind eye to this evidence would discredit him greatly.”
SOURCE http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/true-vote-calls-out-rep-cummings-role-irs-targeting-scandal
Site also has links to documents WRT Rep Cummings interacting with the IRS about True the Vote.
Oh, hell, no! I don’t think she should have any rights to deceive the American public and protect the criminals above her. I think she should be in jail on contempt charges.
….where did you go?
You’re probably correct, I don’t know for exactly certain as I was ‘government’ employee before emails.
My point in this is that my stance is that nothing she did, communicated or documented with respect to 501c4s, specifically “tea party” or otherwise was private in any way shape or form.
She should be locked up in the basement of the Congress, indicted, tried, convicted and imprisoned for life (for you anti-death penalty adherents), or executed (my choice).
Not that he cares. He's got the same "melanin-based shield" protecting him as Obozo does. And he CONTROLS the DOJ.
Barring someone in a position to DO something actually DOING something about this...screwed, we are.
The email servers are supposed to be archived along with an audit trail that shows what changes were made, when, and by whom. That's pretty much standard practice across the board. The claim that it would take years to revoker the emails is laughable - it's not an instant process, but if took more than 2 weeks, they're intentionally dragging their feet.
Hopefully off somewhere to sober up after posting what has to be in the running for “dumbest thing said on the Internet this week”.
You wrote: “The problem is that government jobs inherently attract pro-government (leftist) people.”
I have often wondered how to deal with this situation, if not remedy it.
Reagan was consistently sabotaged by the departments and agencies that he was trying to control.
“GOP needs to fan the flames”
That ain’t gonna happen either.
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