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Wait until they bill us our parents' social security, Medicaid and ObamaCare benefits...
1 posted on 04/11/2014 12:34:11 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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The IRS has put those new 16,000 employees to work digging around in old records for greedy government redistribution.


2 posted on 04/11/2014 12:42:30 AM PDT by raisincane (I'm a resident of Realville.)
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Here’s a clickable link http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/social-security-treasury-target-hundreds-of-thousands-of-taxpayers-for-parents-old-debts/2014/04/10/74ac8eae-bf4d-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html?tid=HP_more


3 posted on 04/11/2014 12:45:02 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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Not that legal has anything to do with this bunch, but how can they even do that?


4 posted on 04/11/2014 12:50:51 AM PDT by stevem
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insanity.


5 posted on 04/11/2014 12:57:28 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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the govt is not your friend


6 posted on 04/11/2014 1:30:22 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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The aggressive effort to collect old debts started three years ago — the result of a single sentence tucked into the farm bill lifting the 10-year statute of limitations on old debts to Uncle Sam.

The GOP will miss another grand opportunity to practice conservative populism. How many readymade issues must these dolts miss?

9 posted on 04/11/2014 1:55:26 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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Bump


16 posted on 04/11/2014 2:31:04 AM PDT by lowbridge
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If this was being done by a responsible, fiscally solvent, constitutionally restricted government, I would have no real qualms about it. Would it suck? Sure, but it would be responsible caretakers straightening out past debt not this bunch of adolescents with no-limit credit cards.


17 posted on 04/11/2014 2:32:07 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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“We have an obligation to current and future Social Security beneficiaries to attempt to recoup money that people received when it was not due.”

Isn't there a counter-law somewhere that says children are not responsible for their deceased parents' debts?

18 posted on 04/11/2014 2:35:54 AM PDT by blueplum
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At first I read this and was outraged, but it might and can be used as a good lesson to make sure you take care of your own.

Remember the old saying/cliché: “Charity starts at home.”

Right now the government is in the charity business and those that do not take care of the home front are in fact standing before the government with their hands out.

The 0bamacare law includes a section on confiscation if one takes on Medicaid.

The government’s welfare system is not a charity system. If one let’s the village take care of the family, then the village owns all that you have; because the village bought and paid for all you have.

Charity starts at home and take care of your business.


20 posted on 04/11/2014 2:37:19 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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The government can legally claw back an overpayment. The only way it used to be possible to stop them was when you died. Now they can go after your heirs. Its despicable.


23 posted on 04/11/2014 2:48:43 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Due process has become a joke, apparently.


33 posted on 04/11/2014 3:33:40 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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Now if I were posting on that site, I would flame them by asking why “deadbeats” should be let off. LOL.

Anyway, seriously, if a person has a relatively steady income, such as a 40 hour job, there is NO REASON to ever get a refund. You simply need to up your withholding allowances to the point where you owe the gov. money at tax time, rather than vice versa. In my case, I take several “snapshots” over each year (on a spreadsheet, to make it easier), where I basically fill out my tax form, projecting what my future income will be. You want to get within 10% of tax owed or $1000 (whichever is higher) to avoid any penalties - but even the penalties aren’t that bad. Just stay below what’s owed, and that is done by tweaking withholding allowances.

It doesn’t always work, things can change (job situation, tax laws), and it would be much tougher for a 1099 estimator to get it right - but most people can do it, if they take a little time during the calendar year.

The IRS has a much easier time blocking refunds than they do using other methods, and probably a lot less push back, since the money never reaches the person. They can dip into your checking account, but there’s a much higher PR price to pay if they start doing that in what looks like an arbitrary manner.


34 posted on 04/11/2014 3:36:41 AM PDT by BobL
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From the article:
“....The aggressive effort to collect old debts started three years ago — the result of a single sentence tucked into the farm bill lifting the 10-year statute of limitations on old debts to Uncle Sam....”

Three years ago? John Boehner became Speaker in Jan 2011. Damned GOP, I thought until I looked at the bill.


“LEGISLATIVE HISTORY—H.R. 6124 (S. 2302):

SENATE REPORTS: No. 110-220 accompanying S. 2302 (Comm. on Agriculture,
Nutrition, and Forestry).
CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, Vol. 154 (2008):
May 22, considered and passed House.
June 5, considered and passed Senate.
WEEKLY COMPILATION OF PRESIDENTIAL DOCUMENTS, Vol. 44 (2008):
June 18, Presidential veto message.
CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, Vol. 154 (2008):
June 18, House and Senate overrode veto.


The bill is from 2008, not 2011. Six years, not three years.

Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi

Now why would the WaPo want us to think this was a GOP bill?


38 posted on 04/11/2014 3:47:04 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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The IRS code name for the operation is “Takmydat”


48 posted on 04/11/2014 4:22:04 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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Sets precedent to collect slave reparations from those who had ancestors who owned slaves.


55 posted on 04/11/2014 4:50:04 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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This sounds similar to the tactics that New York State pulled on my Mom’s best friend about 20 years ago.
My mom’s best friend was in a car wreck that killed her husband and her son and left her wheelchair bound for the rest of her life. She could not work and had no benefits so she subsisted on disability and welfare. About 8 years later and still wheelchair bound, she met and married a man who had just retired. He had been an autoworker, single all his life, had saved his money and had a nice nest egg and retired with a comfortable autoworker’s pension. The month after their marriage New York State seized his bank accounts, garnished his pension and went about the process of getting back all the money they’d ever spent on his new wife over the years for her medical problems and welfare maintenance.
They should never have married.


56 posted on 04/11/2014 4:55:10 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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Sue them!

There is no legal basis for children to be accountable for the debts of their parents.


57 posted on 04/11/2014 4:55:47 AM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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Yet we are told by the icons of the left that children of illegal immigrants should be immune from the effects of their parents breaking the law. I guess illegals are a protected class these days.


58 posted on 04/11/2014 5:07:12 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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I don’t know if this is legal. Not that it matters anymore.

Looks like we are heading back to slavery.


61 posted on 04/11/2014 5:20:07 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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