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Whose Side are you On? If you don’t care whether Republicans win, care that Democrats lose.
National Review ^ | 3/29/2014 | Kevin Williamson

Posted on 03/29/2014 8:02:51 AM PDT by shuck and yall

March 29, 2014 4:00 AM Which Side Are You On? If you don’t care whether Republicans win, care that Democrats lose.

By Kevin D. Williamson

For conservatives, the story of the Obama years has been the depressing spectacle of Republicans fighting a rearguard action covering their retreat from a Democratic agenda backed by superior numbers. Republicans began the Obama administration with effectively no leverage: Barack Obama in the White House, Nancy Pelosi in the speaker’s chair, and Harry Reid running the Senate. The outcome of that was the enactment of the Affordable Care Act, the worst domestic defeat for the cause of limited government in a generation. The 2010 congressional elections gave Republicans some relief... .

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016election; abortion; amnesty; conservatives; deathpanels; diabn; election2014; election2016; kevinwilliamson; libertarians; libtardian; linos; medicalmarijuana; nationalreview; obama; obamacare; randnesty; randsconcerntrolls; tpinos; zerocare
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To: shuck and yall

I just no longer see the GOP representing my views nor my values. The Republican leadership, salivating for things like amnesty, sharing the fiscal irresponsibility of the Dems, unwilling to truly combat Obama’s agenda, and now running from social conservatism like scared rabbits, even cozying up to degeneracy like fag marriage... my God, I just have utter contempt for what the Party has become. They’ve become as pukingly loathesome as the Dems.

When I saw the endless backstabbing campaign directed towards Palin, I fully woke up. Watershed moment. I lost all faith, trust and respect for the Republican Party. Although I’d been an exclusive GOP-voter my entire life, never even missing a single primary or election, that totally ended. I left my 2012 presidential ballot blank. And there’s a good chance I might do so again in 2016. Thee’s no way in hell I’ll ever give another GOP-E scumbag my vote.


81 posted on 03/29/2014 10:04:58 AM PDT by greene66
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To: RedStateRocker
There are those who will stay home if the candidate is not ideologically pure enough and the pragmatists who regard even the worst sell out as being better than the other side winning.

This is where I differ. Its the "purists" in both parties are the ones who have been most likely to get out and vote. Always has been.

Historically its been the "independents" - middle class low info voters - who unless given a clear reason to vote tend stay home.

For example, ever since the republican party ceased being the party of 'ideological' Reagan and became the 'pragmatic' party of Bush, the Reagan Democrats have migrated back to their sofas, or worse, back to the democrat party.

Its the GOP's job to win them back. But they are unable because they really do not believe - never did believe - in the conservatism as Reagan expoused.

82 posted on 03/29/2014 10:07:59 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: shuck and yall
The election in the end was decided by 334,000 votes in Florida, Ohio, Virginia, and New Hampshire.

Mitt Romney ran pro-choice ads in two of those states, after campaigning against the pro-life GOP platform and restating his support for homosexual Scout "leaders".

There are limits to how much a candidate can get in your face and spit in it on everything that you hold dear, before you finally tell him that he is on his own as far as you as an individual voter.

83 posted on 03/29/2014 10:11:29 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Yeah, in theory. In practice, the common man has little say.Look how many states have been forced to accept faggot marriages against the will of the people. As long as the little people go with the lesser of two evils that the elites are pushing only evil will happen.


84 posted on 03/29/2014 10:20:18 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Democrat_media

democrats love and trust government and democrats trust the news media.

“Every democrat congressman or politician voted for Obamacare

every democrat is a socialist/marxist/collectivist who believes an individual has no rights even to own a gun nor property

every democrat is a threat to your freedom and ability to survive.”

I agree with that, but it is also a good description of the Republican party, especially at the national level. (The ‘Pubbies didn’t vote Obamacare in, but they wouldn’t do anything constructive to stop it, either.)

The ‘Rats want to burn the Constitution with a match, the Repukes want to cut it into pieces and use it to start little fires. Both of them are willing to destroy it, just one wants to do it faster. Currently, both parties are a threat to freedom. Or, better, are guilty of destroying freedom. I see no essential difference between them.


85 posted on 03/29/2014 10:24:20 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: shuck and yall

because Amnesty for millions of illegals is so much better when the GOPe passes it.


86 posted on 03/29/2014 10:26:38 AM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: alstewartfan

“Sorry, NR, you have become establishment hacks since WFB died. “

They became establishment hacks well before that, but you have the right idea.


87 posted on 03/29/2014 10:29:35 AM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: shuck and yall

Rinos like jebbush or fatso might be be better than Hitlery, but that’s not good enough. The fact is that rinos will still take us to the dystopian paradise, just a little slower than the Dims.
If rinos win, the federal government will still be a horrific monster that must be defeated and dismantled. We need conservatives and constitutionalists at every level, but we need to realize that efforts at the state level are most likely to bear fruit. If efforts at the state level fail, we will have tyranny, secession and civil war.
When Eastern Europe was “liberated” by the Red Army, was that an improvement or a cause for celebration? I think not. A president rino following commie obama would be a somewhat analogous situation.
George Washington described governmement as fire, a fearful master. The Dims are throwing on gasoline as fast as possible, the rinos are throwing on logs of wood. Neither will make efforts to control or reduce the fire.


88 posted on 03/29/2014 10:32:36 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: Gaffer

Then you get that by default if the Democrats win. We have to control the agenda and secondly, recognize that politicians don’t lead they follow. Americans were in favor of the Patriot Act, it was the patriotic thing to do. Now we know better.

Politicians are like restaurants, they serve what we let them or what we ask for.


89 posted on 03/29/2014 10:39:04 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: shuck and yall
These shills make the same mistake over and over, they ASS-U-ME that we are all either a democRat or a republiCrat, I for one am neither! I am a Conservative Constitutionalist so I say Crats or Rats, what`s the difference?
90 posted on 03/29/2014 11:02:17 AM PDT by nomad
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To: ronnie raygun

I am on the side of the constitution......

show me a pub that backs it 100% and that person has my vote....

but as of now, the percentage of pubs(and some so called conservatives) that are willing to let their sacred cows go in the name of strict constitutionalism is real close to zero....

so my vote will go elsewhere


91 posted on 03/29/2014 11:06:08 AM PDT by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: Democrat_media

Your list of organizations that are controlled by the Democrat Party is missing the Republican Party.


92 posted on 03/29/2014 11:06:17 AM PDT by EricT. (ARBEIT MACHT FREI- now get back to work you taxpaying peasant!)
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To: 1010RD

I’m not a Republican. I won’t vote for the current Vichy second tier appeasers. They need a lesson.


93 posted on 03/29/2014 11:20:14 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Gaffer

You’re bringing the rope, they’ll* teach the lesson.

*the Democrats


94 posted on 03/29/2014 11:42:33 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: shuck and yall
NEVER EVER AGAIN will I vote for a Republican for being Republican. Nor will I vote for a Republican for not being a Democrat.

It does *NOT* advance Conservatism to vote for ANYTHING OTHER than Conservatism.

The three most important words in politics are: “Compared with what?”

No, you dumb sonsabitches. If that's what y'all think, you have forgotten what you are there for. You have sworn an oath before Almighty God. The three important words for you: KEEP YOUR OATH.

UNDERSTAND: Hence forth and forevermore, my vote will be earned, or not delivered at all. Period. fini.

95 posted on 03/29/2014 11:57:37 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: shuck and yall

Whose Side are you On?

America’s
I list my political affiliation as American.
I vote for the best interests of the Nation as I see them.
I don’t give a rats ass if you are a Republican, Democrat, Independent etc. Because there are jerks, idiots and criminals in all parties, just as there are good men and women. If their ideals and policies


96 posted on 03/29/2014 11:59:19 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

The democrat party completely controls the news media, mainstream media, universities,academia(science like global warming hoax), unions,gov schools, soros etc. etc.

marxists(the democrat party ) have taken over most of the bully pulpits and organiztions of power

Just with the media the democrat party creates the false reality we live in where George zimmerman, trayvon, adam lanza and stupid planes are the top news for months but the obama cretin sicking the IRS on conservativs is not news, benghazi ignore3d etc.

the media is the most powerful institution in America and the democrats control it and most of the sheep’s minds


97 posted on 03/29/2014 12:39:50 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: 1010RD

You guys are a one track wonder. Same stupid votes, same betrayals by RINOS. Your only retorts are “ they aren’t as evil as Democrats” coupled with blame on conservatives for not agreeing with you. You need to go find somebody else to buy that BS.


98 posted on 03/29/2014 1:08:54 PM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Gaffer

They aren’t the same. Their votes are better, just not as good as we’d like. That’s normal in a dynamic country like America. The goal is to push in the right direction. That’s already happening.

These guys are addicted to spending, but that generation is going away.


99 posted on 03/29/2014 1:19:53 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: lodi90; cuban leaf; nathanbedford; SunkenCiv; CodeToad; freedomfiter2; Blackirish
Obama has established arbitrary powers within the executive branch. It is but a short intellectual walk from “if congress doesn't act, I will,” to openly declaring, “My will is law.”

Given the IRS/NSA abuse/surveillance of opponents and enemies, I doubt we'll ever have another non-rat president.

But if we do, he will be armed with the same despotic powers established by Obama.

We have slipped to the very edge of raw authoritarian government.

Presidential elections have become something approaching a courtesy fornication. This thread illustrates the growing and correct perception that our property and freedom depend on the outcome of single election.

No matter who the Uniparty nominates, our choice is limited to someone between the limits of either a good near-dictator or a bad near-dictator.

Let's stop pretending. We must go around the DC Uniparty if we are to possibly restore freedom. Article V.

100 posted on 03/29/2014 1:54:00 PM PDT by Jacquerie ( Article V.)
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