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Crestwood Court(St. Louis): Dead Mall in its Final Days (A Walkthrough)
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Posted on 03/20/2014 2:56:28 PM PDT by DallasBiff

Quite sad, small business owned retail establishments in malls going out of business, but yet the keystroke is much easier than walking to a retail business.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: internet; obama
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1 posted on 03/20/2014 2:56:29 PM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

Go here for other mall memories http://deadmalls.com
I use to go to Brookdale in Minnesota. I visited the area in 2004 and was shocked at how rundown the mall was. It looked like a swap meet place with only Sears still looking the same.
The comments I read when searching at google was that the area around it and the bus stop that was added brought in all kinds of gang members and other low lifes which drove out the good people.

It has been mostly bulldozed and another mall (more open) being built in it’s place.


2 posted on 03/20/2014 3:03:33 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: DallasBiff

That’s nothing! Check out the late Randall Mall in a Cleveland, near in, suburb. Once one of, if not the greatest mall in the US. The neighborhood changed,,,,,,,

http://www.labelscar.com/ohio/randall-park-mall


3 posted on 03/20/2014 3:09:01 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: DallasBiff

I think various malls having been dying for the better part of 40 years. In fact I can think of multiple comedians who have gotten material from this phenomenon. No doubt Amazon, etc. and other recent social trends have an effect. But that is not all there is to it.


4 posted on 03/20/2014 3:11:29 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: DallasBiff

What was the reason the mall in question emptied out?


5 posted on 03/20/2014 3:12:45 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: minnesota_bound

Anyone familiar with Landover Mall in the Washington, DC area?

That was a beautiful suburban mall when it opened. But, the area around the mall went downhill, and gang types went to the mall. Their presence in big numbers scared away legitimate shoppers. Stores pulled out of the mall, leaving vacancies or low end retail such as dollar stores.

Eventually the mall was torn down.

Some black leaders in that area blame the owners of the mall for not having adequate security, or for not doing more to attract high end stores. But, unfortunately, critical masses of shoppers voted with their feet, and decided to avoid Landover Mall as it went downhill.

Nobody wants to go shopping in gang country. Probably it is politically incorrect or even racist to say anything. But the mall went under. You can’t survive in retail without legitimate paying customers.


6 posted on 03/20/2014 3:13:25 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (as)
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To: DallasBiff

Not dead yet: The American shopping mall is changing, not going away

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/not-dead-yet—the-american-shopping-mall-is-changing—not-going-away-174448145.html;_ylt=AwrTWf0zaCtTeXsAxf.TmYlQ


7 posted on 03/20/2014 3:14:36 PM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: minnesota_bound

The comments I read when searching at google was that the area around it and the bus stop that was added brought in all kinds of gang members and other low lifes which drove out the good people.


That’s a common theme I’m afraid to say. And it is everywhere the thugs are. And from my own point of view I point the finger directly at the police and the Politicians of the town and cities where this happens over and over again. They would rather see the ‘good’ people leave and the businesses they were customers at close down than push back against the Political Correctness and the fear of being called a Racist by the Thugs and their ‘lobbyists’ aka Community organizers.


8 posted on 03/20/2014 3:15:01 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: DallasBiff
Killed by the internet...AND Sons and Daughters of Odingus The Great.

I'd put money on it. That is why movie theaters are going to go out of bidness in 10-20 years-why share the same space, and breathe the same air with 350 Trayvons in Training and/or the cast of My Big Redneck Wedding?

9 posted on 03/20/2014 3:17:36 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: wideminded
No doubt Amazon, etc. and other recent social trends have an effect. But that is not all there is to it.

I live a mere two miles from a major mall here in S.E. Michigan and have only visited it once in the past 10 years and that was to purchase a pair of walking shoes.

Virtually ALL my shopping is done via the internet and that is because I can find anything I want in whatever size I need within the comfort of my home...........

I play a lot of sports and prefer the top end equipment which is never offered in the box stores such as Dicks, Sports Authority or whatever. As for clothing, I'm a small male and can never find my size in any of these stores...........

With the internet, there is no longer a need for me to spend hours driving around and shopping for whatever it is I'm looking for........

10 posted on 03/20/2014 3:22:51 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: DallasBiff

Malls well that ends well.


11 posted on 03/20/2014 3:23:40 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
That's it, precisely.

Probably it is politically incorrect or even racist to say anything

Oh Well !

White guilt is for victims .. liberate yourself .. begin by losing the apologetics.

/.02

12 posted on 03/20/2014 3:25:04 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: minnesota_bound
When I was a kid, Mom took us downtown to shop. At the time there were 5 department stores, 3 discount stores (the five and dime stores) plus a slew of shoe stores, hat shops, men's stores and a few theaters. Then downtown deteriorated. Most of the department stores closed. The five and dimes, the other stores and the movie theaters disappeared. Crime and gangs had taken over.

Then the malls were built and they became THE places to shop. Some malls had multiplex movie theaters either on the property or adjacent. I remember taking my mother one Saturday a month to the biggest mall. It had a food court, 3 sit down restaurants plus all the department stores that used to be in town and so many others. Mom and I would go early in the morning and not leave till evening.

Well, that big mall is all but deserted now. Gangs and crime moved from the city to the suburban malls. Malls didn't bother maintaining a competent and effective security force. When people don't feel safe, they will stay away in droves.

I know of only mall that's doing sorta ok. It's relatively new. The owners did spend some money on good security and there is even a local police substation in the mall. Crime isn't the problem here, but rather, it's the economy. Every year after Christmas, you can count on 1 store closing. After Christmas, 2013, it was 3 stores. People just don't have the money to spend.

I'm old fashioned. I still like to go to a store and buy things in person. But as malls close and stores fade away, I'm finding myself ordering merchandise online more and more. It's a shame.

13 posted on 03/20/2014 3:25:38 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: wideminded

When you think about it...malls were the reason many of the big department stores in the cities closed.
At least that’s what happened in the Boston area.


14 posted on 03/20/2014 3:25:41 PM PDT by markoman (The man with the rubber glove was....surprisingly gentle.)
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To: DallasBiff
..in Lexington KY., there used to be a very popular mall (Lexington Mall) @ New Circle Rd./Richmond Rd.
The rental for stores, drove the stores out/ppl stop shopping there, to much larger Mall on other side of city.
The Mall, sat empty 20+ years, it was sold to a megachurch, who gutted the whole structure, reducing floor
area by (guessing) by a 1/3..rebuilt, it's a great looming church..it's very inviting.

15 posted on 03/20/2014 3:29:18 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: markoman

mostly, the stores didn’t close, they moved.

Downtown became obsolete.


16 posted on 03/20/2014 3:30:24 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: wideminded
You're right. This phenomenon predates e-commerce by decades: Dixie Square Mall, where the 1980 Blues Brothers movie was filmed, was a dead mall, having been closed in 1978.
17 posted on 03/20/2014 3:31:44 PM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: The Working Man
Interestingly, I think Mondawmin Mall in a pretty bad neighborhood in Baltimore is still going strong.

And it's a stop on the train and bus lines.

I only went there a couple of times, then got the hell out of there.

You don't want to be there after dark.

Maybe it's different today. This was 20 years ago.

18 posted on 03/20/2014 3:32:07 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: DallasBiff

Almost unbelievable. Remember this when the drive-in movie was across the street. I believe this land was available in the 1940s for only $8,500. It was really something and I spent many a day going through it. Haven’t been there in decades ago as I no longer live there since the 1970s. Times change. Let’s hope something better arrives.


19 posted on 03/20/2014 3:37:21 PM PDT by RichardW
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“The neighborhood changed.”
We used to call it Randall Dark Mall for the obvious reason.Crime drove the mall into the ground.Same thing happened to Rolling Acres Mall,The city of Akron extended the bus line to the mall and it was all over for them.


20 posted on 03/20/2014 4:01:25 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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