For example, order a sheet cake for church or an event (maybe a party) with Christian messages or scriptures such as “Children need a mother and a father” or “Marriage is one man and one woman.” Or: John 3:3 “You must be born again” or “Jesus is Lord.”
Or order a sheet cake with conservative messages or candidates, like “Ted Cruz / Sarah Palin 2016.” Or “The Second Amendment: It’s the Law.” Or “Global Warming Hoax R.I.P.” Or “Happy Birthday Tea Party.”
(3) When a baker refuses to do the job or photographer refuses to cover a conservative or Christian event (or intentionally screws it up), file exactly the same type of lawsuit as homosexual activists. And of course tell the press, mostly the conservative media and talk radio.
The root problem here is a “public accommodation.” Back in the era of Jim Crow laws and the civil rights movement trying to end discrimination, there was a serious problem. Blacks traveling might enter a town and find that no one would rent them a motel room. They might have nowhere to stay at all. Blacks might not be able to find any restaurant where they could eat.
So the idea of a “public accommodation” – essential service – became important. How do you balance the right of a private business to do whatever he or she wants with their property (their business) and the rights of individuals? The only justification for telling a business whom they have to serve is when people have nowhere to go at all for essential services under discrimination.
That is what a “public accommodation” means – a hotel, a bus line, a taxicab, a restaurant. Civil rights laws guarantee essential services that are so fundamental that a person cannot reasonably survive and live if minorities are denied service.
But the vast majority of businesses are not “public accommodations.” If one photographer doesn’t feel like working with you, there are plenty of others. If one gift shop won’t sell you a snow globe, you’ll live.
I suggest the KKK try to run some ads in Vibe magazine!
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but seriously, here is what I want to know... do these same bakers ... refuse to bake cakes for hetrosexual couples living together? I am just curious if they take a consistent moral stand or only one in the case of this particular sin.
This is something that only goes one way. A conservative can be denied service all day long and nothing will happen. No lawsuit will make it past the first hearing. Nobody will cover the story. It’s foolish to think that anything used by gays will work the other way. There aren’t just double standards, the standards pass through alternate dimensions even.
Going down to Ben and Jerry’s today and have them print out my tagline on one of their ice cream cakes.
I am authorized to perform civil weddings in Indiana. If Indiana law ever recognizes same-sex “marriages” I will probably legally be under a duty to perform the ceremony. But there is no statutory set “dialog” for performing the ceremony. My ceremony may start with “OK, which one of you is the pitcher and which one is the catcher?”
And it will probably go downhill from there.
I may be obligated to perform a wedding. Nobody said it had to be a good one.
All you’re gonna end up with is a cake full of fecal matter and urine because, conservatives aren’t human.
what would happen if the Christian baker agrees to bake a basic white cake, but refuses to place the two women or two men cake topper at the top or make the rainbow style cakes? can they be sued? why not just say, I don’t think I can make rainbow flavored cakes with too many colors because I’ve never done that before and leave it at that?
The best solution I’ve seen, offered up by another Freeper, was to advertise that any profits from cakes made for gay weddings would be donated to gay conversion therapy services.
The best solution I’ve seen, offered up by another Freeper, was to advertise that any profits from cakes made for gay weddings would be donated to gay conversion therapy services.
Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex marriage
Many of my fellow FReepers are unaware that I am the promoter of the
Maine Same Sex Marriage Proposal
Same sex couples working in the lumber industry would be allowed to contract "marriage" for the northwoods lumber season only, said marriage lapsing with the Spring Thaw. This I thought might cut down on violence and STDs in winter lumber camps and increase lumberjack productivity. What give me the idea was that all the manly women up here, especially those who work for the state, wear really cool heavy lumberjack shirts and caulked boots.
For some reason, my idea has met with a tepid reception among the voters and I may lose my Selectman official status, never mind my perennial bid for schoolboard.
“cake, what wedding cake? “
“Show me your contract please”
We should have a bill called the: “Artists and Artisan Freedom of Choice Act”
As any baker making a cusomized cake is essentially an artist.
Could you force a ______ Sculptor to make to a sculpture of _______(offensive to person in first blank).?
I own a Bakery....
I bake cakes for all events, communions , christenings, weddings etc... Yes, there have been a few gay weddings....
There isn’t a “gay” only bakery that I know of... Nor a bakery that won’t convey a Christian message.
This is the most stupid idea I’ve heard yet....
Instead of focusing the attack on the law or culture, mount an almost ineffective attack on bakeries....
Geez....no wonder the liberals laugh at us....
It is very simple. You have a stock photo of a gay wedding cake. And that is the only cake/product that you do for gay weddings. It isn’t as though bakeries produce anything and everything customers want. Even little children know that.
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While I am sympathetic with the tone of the article, there is settled case law that basically states if you open your doors to the public, that means all the public. Not a property rights issue.
Believe the answer was read at this site. Have a couple of Lesbians go into a muslim barber and ask for a hair cut. That should bring things into perspective. It might be a bit spooky....pointed, sharp objects in the hands of extremists but it might be the solution.