Posted on 02/13/2014 8:51:41 PM PST by CorporateStepsister
Thousands of San Francisco Bay Area residents may have been exposed to measles last week when an unvaccinated student at the Unversity of California, Berkeley, attended classes and rode the area's BART transit system.
Public health officials in Contra Costa County, outside of San Francisco, said anyone riding BART from Feb. 4 to Feb. 7 during the morning or late evening commutes could have been exposed to the highly contagious respiratory virus. The young man in his 20s lives in the county and was confirmed to have measles on Wednesday. He was likely infected while traveling recently in Asia, health officials said.
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Logic? Why let stop you when you have an agenda?
Once again. If the rest of the population is vaccinated and vaccines prevent disease then why does a non vaccinated person affect a vaccinate person?
I never got the mumps...
No Marcella, measles do not make men sterile. Mumps occasionally do. Measles is a disease that causes discomfort and lasts about 10 days.
No Rubella is the bad one for pregnant women aka german measles.
The measles virus has been eradicated in the US. By riding BART, this student with his imported measles endangered everyone who is too young to be vaccinated, who is unable to mount an immune response to vaccines, or whose immune system is suppressed due to cancer or another disease.
FYI, measles can kill--both during the initial illness, or during a relapse that can occur up to a decade later--and can also cause permanent brain damage. It is not an innocuous disease like the common cold.
Not only is the described alleged misconduct extremely bizarre, the article you linked uses Mike Adams as a source, and describes “Dr.” Andrew Wakefield as an expert.
In other words, it is not credible.
Thank you for the ping.
IMO, this young man should be prosecuted. It is horribly irresponsible to expose hundreds of people to a dangerous illness like that.
http://www.fiercepharma.com/story/whistleblowers-merck-hid-declining-efficacy-mmr-shot/2012-06-26
Is Forbes good enough for you?
How about this one?
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/06/27/47851.htm
When I went into Navy boot camp in 1980, they tested all of the recruits for immunity to rubella, and only vaccinated the handful who were not immune. I was one of two in my company of 80 girls who had to get vaccinated. It was one of the more painful vaccinations.
When I joined the Army, I only had to show my shot records. They did not give me any vaccinations that were recorded in those records. I think I only received the hepatitis A and B vaccine during basic training--because I requested it--because I am medical personnel, so could be exposed in the course of my duties.
Thank you for the very well-thought-out post.
One other complication of measles that many people are unaware of, is that a person can apparently recover from measles, then come down with encephalitis years later and die. It is similar to the chickenpox/shingles connection, but on a shorter time frame.
I have never had measles, and had to be vaccinated against it as a prerequisite for going to college.
I had chickenpox, and more recently, shingles. The pain of shingles can last for months, years, or even permanently. Unfortunately, having shingles once does not protect you against having it again. I really need to get vaccinated, even though the vaccine is recommended for people a few years older than I.
Apparently, the newer acellular vaccine against whooping cough does not induce permanent immunity, with the result that most adults are *not* immune to it. The latest recommendation is for pregnant women and anyone else anticipating a baby in the family to get a whooping cough vaccine to protect the baby. Also, the childhood vaccine schedules have been revised to try to increase immunity.
I realize that being a nurse, you are probably already aware of the latest recommendations regarding whooping cough vaccine. However, other FReepers may benefit from the information.
Well, that and the fact that there are newer strains out there, not covered by the vaccine, that have popped up in the past couple of decades.
All the DTaP and TDaP vaccines in the world won’t change the fact that you’re still not immune to these increasingly common variants.
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/15/8/08-1511_article.htm
Vaccines protect most, but not all, people who receive them. That is because each person has a unique immune system that responds differentially to vaccines. Some people receive partial protection from vaccination, meaning that they might still develop the disease but it won't be as serious as it would be without the vaccine. Even partial protection can mean the difference between life and death. A few people simply do not respond to vaccines. For their protection, vaccination is recommended for everyone (unless medically contraindicated).
It would seem that those strains emerged at about the same time as the acellular vaccines were introduced. The whole cell vaccine promoted longer lasting and probably more comprehensive immunity, since it would have provoked immune responses against all of the bacterial proteins, not just the toxoid.
I cannot look up any pertussis vaccines that are currently in development (because I am not at work), but my guess is that they are targeting multiple antigens to get around the problem of selecting for bacteria with increased toxoid production.
All of those say basically the same thing, and none of them tell exactly what the details of the alleged “cover-up” are. What is the motivation behind the “whistle-blowing”—employees who saw something underhanded going on, or former employees trying to get back at Merck for terminating their employment? If they did see something underhanded, then why didn’t they take their concerns to the FDA, instead of filing a class-action lawsuit? **If** there was falsification of data, who was doing the falsifying—the company Merck, or a Merck employee who wanted to make himself look better by falsifying or misrepresenting data? There are just too many unknowns here.
When I try to Google Merck and mumps, the results are almost all from non-reputable websites, and there are no recent updates on the allegations.
As for the actual issue of vaccinations, it is no single thing, and lumping all of its separate componants together is one of the main techniques of deceit in this matter.
Vaccination delivery, for example, is an entire subject on its own. Combining multiple vaccines into one, giving multiple vaccinations in close order, starting vaccinations literally at birth and continuing through extremely early childhood before the immune system itself can begin to mature, adding multiple known, poisonous ingredients as adjuvants specifically to make the immune system impacted even harder - all of these have extremely serious effects and are, individually and together, not at all uniformly supported by medical professionals. And its hardly absurd to reason that observed collapses in children by such vaccinations cannot actually be, in fact, caused by such vaccinations. Who is more callous, a medical researcher who decides that such child collapses are statistically insignificant given the amount of vaccinations, or the parents struggling to deal with the suddenly immune compromised or autistic child?
As well, regarding MD certified allopathic medicine as the only legitimate medical sicence on the planet is, shall we say, subject to serious contention by the rest of the planet. Especially since things like the death rate hospitals from secondary infections, the constantly falling effectiveness and negative feedback loops of antibiotics, and the general dissatisfaction with modern medicine by patients continues unabated.
In addition, referring to a herd effect is breathtakingly imposing on the whole of society, for it cannot be properly imposed except through the seizing of the bodies of every human being in totality by the State, under the claim that without strict exposure to every vaccination by every person at all times, any resistance can be considered an attack against the entire society. Talk about absolute despotism and the literal seizing into physical slavery of the entire human race while claiming justification from a medical theory! Millions of people have to have poison injected into them from birth so someone wont get sick from a carrier - yet at the same time, while praised to the heavens, close onto that praise is the legal indemnification statement that, how did you put it, no vaccine is 100% effective 100% of the time for 100% of the people who received them.
Well isnt that just fine - total physical slavery and the loss of human rights for something that isnt perfect? And WHAT, may I ask, is the actual non-perfection ratio? Whats the cost-benefit analysis here? How effective are vaccinations when subtracted from thethe natural socially developing immune response? How much have vaccination statistics hijacked that natural immune response and claimed it for themselves? And how many immune challenged and thus vulnerable people were MADE that way from having their immune systems damaged by massive exposure to adjuvant-laden vaccinations themselves?
In other words, how much is the REAL herd effect actually the blind obedience of people getting vaccinations while being whipped with vague threats of horror by medical professionals claiming godhood, while backing themselves up with the totalitarian powers of the state and blinding people with suppressed evidence?
Because the fact is, the same people who demand vaccinations while declaring that of course they are not perfect, are the ones demanding PERFECT compliance of everyone on the planet at gunpoint - and to this, too, they shrug and say of course. Gee, Im smelling a distinctly NON-medical political agenda here.
And so are a LOT of people. Millions, in fact. Because careful study and statistical analysis of public health records indicate very strongly that there may well be significant problems with the vaccination medical model itself - and that while perhaps vaccinations are not completely innefective, they seem to be certainly nowhere near being able to invoke the immune response and disease effectiveness they are being claimed to provide.
But as a justification to force the injections of poisons, included as adjuvants, they have proven to be a terrific success. And also, its not like theres any massive, global, multi-billion dollar profit motive in keeping vaccines around, right? Or political motive in keeping people sick, when there are things like Obamacare that NEED sick people and a SINGLE medical model to control - right?
For readers who want to learn more, do some research - theres lots of it available. Heres a good start:
MMR Vaccinations Abject Failure in Measles and Mumps
Bedrock of vaccination theory crumbles as science reveals antibodies not necessary to fight viruses
That would set the precedent for the promiscuous AIDS infected to be rounded up and prosecuted.
Those presently pushing that agenda would wail as much as they did at the prospect of closing the very bath houses which facilitated the spread of the disease back when.
I do not think AIDS and measles are quite in the same category. Measles is highly contagious, and spread through aerosols which can stay in the air up to 2 hours after the infected person leaves. There is nothing people can do to avoid measles (other than the vaccine).
AIDS, OTOH, requires physical contact. People can easily avoid AIDS by restricting their number of partners. I know it is not politically correct to “blame the victim”, but the majority of people who get AIDS do so as a direct result of their behavior.
Despite that, I can’t say that I would be against prosecuting people with AIDS who knowingly continue to engage in behavior likely to spread the disease.
-——I hope this does not balloon into an epidemic.——
Don’t forget...... it’s San Francisco. Maybe it will reduce the surplus democrat wacko population
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