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2013 sixth-hottest year, confirms long-term warming: UN
Yahoo! News ^ | 2/5/14 | Nina Larson

Posted on 02/05/2014 3:21:27 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: PapaBear3625
If they wanted to compare the temperature readings over a period of time they should use the same method over all periods of time, not tree rings and ice cores, for some years, mercury thermometers for another range of years, digital thermometers for another range of years and satellite data for still another set of years.
21 posted on 02/05/2014 3:58:32 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Pffffffffffffffffffffffffft!


22 posted on 02/05/2014 4:08:26 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Nice graph. Confirms the recent cooling trend. Wonder why don’t they show the corresponding CO2 levels?

Steve


23 posted on 02/05/2014 4:09:41 PM PST by ha maker (Sanity for lurkers)
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To: NormsRevenge

Is this the same United Nations involved in the oil-for-food scandal? And the child sexual abuse scandal? The same United Nations that brought cholera to Haiti?


24 posted on 02/05/2014 4:10:33 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
It sure was hot here, today.


25 posted on 02/05/2014 4:14:25 PM PST by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Anybody know Jarraud’s politics?


26 posted on 02/05/2014 4:15:21 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare. The "global warming" of healthcare plans.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Let’s stipulate that everyone’s acting in good faith regarding temperature record-keeping. Lets further stipulate that weather stations all over the globe faithfully reported temperatures. I want to knowcwhatvhappened to all those old weather stations in the old USSR when it went out of business back in 1989 or so. Because if they (or any significant portion of them) stopped being reliable or stopped reporting altogether, the loss of all those cold weather records would skew the average just about the time the average temperatures started climbing.

Just saying...


27 posted on 02/05/2014 4:17:16 PM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: NormsRevenge

And how does 2013 compare with 1813.....and 713....813 BC....3113 BC? How did “Greenland” get its name? One certainly doesn’t see a whole lot of “green” there today.


28 posted on 02/05/2014 4:23:56 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: NormsRevenge
feh...
29 posted on 02/05/2014 4:25:51 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: NormsRevenge

I was surprised by the stats that Australia had a high average temp last year - the Summer was not overly hot in South Australia but the winter was rather mild so that can stuff with the averages. This year has been the hottest summer I can remember since the early 70’s. If we are back in that cycle I predict a late wet cold winter and a lower overall temperature and I also predict that will not get a mention in next years figures.


30 posted on 02/05/2014 5:25:34 PM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: NormsRevenge

165 years of data on a 4.5 billion year old plant is nada.


31 posted on 02/05/2014 5:39:58 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: NormsRevenge
Somebody is lying.
My money is on the socialists.
32 posted on 02/05/2014 7:43:33 PM PST by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: colorado tanker
Do these people ever get tired of lying?

Does Satan?

33 posted on 02/05/2014 7:59:57 PM PST by Tonytitan
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Good point.


34 posted on 02/05/2014 8:03:56 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: NormsRevenge

Whatever happened to the several million climate refugees the UN predicted years ago?


35 posted on 02/05/2014 8:05:48 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Interesting that they chose 1960-1991 as the base rate - because as I remember the stats, temps were about .5 degree F higher during the first half of the twentieth century, meaning that all we’re doing is returning to where we were before we dove into a colder period when everyone thought we were going toward another ice age.....


36 posted on 02/05/2014 9:36:30 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: NormsRevenge

“Lies. Damned Lies. And Statistics.”


37 posted on 02/05/2014 9:41:42 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Oh bovine scat!
“since reliable records began in 1850,”
Those records aren’t reliable at all.


The readings probably were fairly reliable and errors would average out.

However I believe all of the older, hand-written numbers are mainly lost after they were entered into punch cards and saved in computers. IIRC the East Anglia CRU folks admitted this.

Since then all of the AGW modeling groups have massaged the data to correct for various errors, such as urban heat islands, and guess what? Every correction made the earth hotter...:^)

Also, again IIRC, NOAA won't even tell people what correction formulae they applied.

I don't think anyone knows what the actual old readings were any more.

38 posted on 02/06/2014 12:00:10 AM PST by az_gila
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Oh bovine scat!
Now that is taking the high road when calling bravo sierra on something.
39 posted on 02/06/2014 12:57:16 AM PST by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: NormsRevenge

BS. I used to wear long pants no more than 2 months of the year but have had to wear long pants for over 6 months for the last 8 years.

It’s been 8 years here in So. California since we have had a summer.


40 posted on 02/06/2014 1:08:12 AM PST by dalereed
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