Posted on 01/09/2014 10:06:54 AM PST by billorites
Ford's Global VP/Marketing and Sales, Jim Farley, said something both sinister and obvious during a panel discussion about data privacy today at CES, the big electronics trade show in Las Vegas.
Because of the GPS units installed in Ford vehicles, Ford knows when its drivers are speeding, and where they are while they're doing it.
Farley was trying to describe how much data Ford has on its customers, and illustrate the fact that the company uses very little of it in order to avoid raising privacy concerns: "We know everyone who breaks the law, we know when you're doing it. We have GPS in your car, so we know what you're doing. By the way, we don't supply that data to anyone," he told attendees.
Rather, he said, he imagined a day when the data might be used anonymously and in aggregate to help other marketers with traffic related problems. Suppose a stadium is holding an event; knowing how much traffic is making its way toward the arena might help the venue change its parking lot resources accordingly, he said.
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Nah. I replied to your post... YOU decided to participate.
“Yep. Just like Santa Claus. I predicted this some time ago. The black box in your car will give you up for speeding, as soon as the state figures out a way to sift the data from all those other cars.”
I was just watching the seat belt warning light in our new car flash because my wife had not buckled up and thought to myself, with the data stream from my car now available to the LEO’s, they can just roll up and ticket you based on what the display in their cruiser is telling them about any number of things you are supposed to be doing while driving.
Not just that, but the newer ones (I have a 2013 GT) have a Track App that allows you to record 0-30, 0-60, 0-100 times plus 60-0 breaking times. it also has an accelerometer portion of the app, and all of them record your data so you can see if your times/performance improve/change etc.
The other aspect of these is that Ford "COULD" possibly use this information in warranty situations to prove that you "abused" the car and therefore deny claims, etc.
So what looks like toys that are designed to give you good information and allow you to 'enjoy' your Muscle Car experience are also nice little "Gotcha" tools if they want them to be.
Sorry but by replying to MY post you decided to include me, which left me with a perfectly fine right to point out you’re not funny. That’s over and above the general right EVERYBODY on FR gets to comment on a public post that isn’t funny.
“And theres a heckuva difference between the free market doing stuff - where you can vote with your checkbook - and the government doing it...”
In the case of the government we vote with our ballot.
In either case we have to have a candidate to vote for, otherwise all we can do is with hold our vote.
The guy is an idiot.
He’s marketing ideas that are
not appealing to the average customer
and then trying to impress the tech world.
Your phone can do all these same things that
can effect your privacy too.
I’m funny as hell. Don’t know what’s broken on you.
But hey, congratulations on earning your keyboard warrior merit badge.
Maybe you’re funny other times. The nerd dork routine requires 2 important things to be funny: 1- the audience needs to be at least as nerdy, 2- they need to be stoned. Any joke that has 2 preconditions like that isn’t funny, actually any joke that has the second condition isn’t funny the first one is just icing on the not funny cake.
I’m not so sure it’s unappealing to the average customer. Look up the Progressive safe driving discount, people actually WANTING a monitoring device to show they don’t speed so they can get a discount.
Around here it was leaked that the new automatic toll paying tags to get across the bridge (displayed on the window - have a chip in them I guess) are also being used around town to monitor traffic flow. Sensors scattered around town to see how long it takes a vehicle to get from point A to B. Of course, “the information on the vehicle type and drivers name is not used.” Yeah, right.
I remember radar detectors. And how many states outlawed the use of them.
Finding the car's GPS receiving antenna and putting something metallic over it would be enough, I would think.
All that is needed is something that will sufficiently block your car's GPS from receiving the 1575.42 MHZ and 1227.6 MHz GPS satellite signals.
yours: “I do not believe we are ruled by moral people.”
mine: INDEED!
‘Santa Claus’ technology,, scary..
Rather, he said, he imagined a day when the data might be used anonymously and in aggregate...
Bullcrap, any databank such as this will ultimately be use for nefarious purposes.
And car purchasers are footing the bill for the devises that track them.
Aside from the fact it still runs well, another reason to keep my ‘77 F150. The pickup is older than my girlfriend. No tracking device there, not that I really need to avoid one. Closest I come to illegal is trying to buy beer a few minutes early.
BTW, I run the rascal on propane, 350K+, expect at least 500K. Darned thing might outlast me.
Most vehicle have had “black boxes” for years.
Some for decades.
That’s not the only thing new cars have that are a problem. The CVT transmissions are not all they are cracked up to be. We got notice that there could be a class action lawsuit against Honda for the way the CVT things damage engines.
Don’t ask me how it happens, but apparently these new transmissions that car makers use in order to help meet the blasted government’s new fuel standards cause excess oil consumption. Some car dealers are advising Honda owners to check their oil every 1000 miles! You can be driving along the highway and suddenly your engine light will come on, you will be completely out of oil, and your engine is toast.
We’re from the government, and we’re here to help.
“The pickup is older than my girlfriend. No tracking device there, not that I really need to avoid one.”
Which one lacks the tracking device? Your pickup or your girlfriend? Couldn’t resist!
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