Posted on 01/03/2014 2:22:26 PM PST by EveningStar
Its beyond my value system to tell a father grieving for his lost daughter that he is full of crap.
You Sir are the type of idiot that makes Conservatism such a hard sell for many..simply because the majority in the Country are smarter than dirt..a feat which you fail to emulate..
Because the killer hasn’t asked for forgiveness, that’s why.
hadn't heard that. Class act. God bless them.
May God bless you. You should change your screen name. I can’t imagine the strength you exhibited.
For some it is a way to try to move on.
Very hard and I doubt I would be able to do it, but I will not demean him for doing so.
The Memorial would be adequate and most likely sincere in portrayal. I agree, we (we, meaning those outside the family) can get too carried away with the incident of untimely death. It’s not fair, but it’s still going to happen. This reminds me an expectant mother insisting on an unnecessary induced labor to be performed so that her dying husband can ‘meet’ his child before death. That’s sweet, but kind of pushing the boundaries of health and safety. Besides, if they are Christian, he will ‘meet’ his whole family eventually when they are done here.
I’m very, very sorry about the loss of your son and I admire you for your strength to forgive.
Thank you for posting.
As Christians, we have no choice but to forgive - or at least try to forgive - because Christ ordered us to do so.
Seventy times seven.
The killer is dead, his daughter is dead. The killer is beyond forgiveness, her father is avoiding unrequited hate and it is the Christian thing to do. His daughter no longer cares and from what I understand, is in the arms of her Savior.
Huh????????????????
I think we are going too far sometimes as in all the roadside crosses .Should we also put a plaque in every room ,sidewalk,etc.?
Maybe we should.What do others think?
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I think that every grieving family who wants a roadside cross or plaque should have the freedom to have as many as they like.
Behind every one of these memorials is a family who would give just about anything to have their loved one back. When I see those sad crosses, I pray for those loved ones.
We are fortunate enough to have inherited a Judeo-Christian culture which respects life, and so we honor our dead and console ourselves a little by hallowing the places where they died with a white cross or placing a memorial plaque in a building where they once spent time.
There is nothing wrong about these memorials; indeed, they are a tribute to love which continues even after death.
Look, I appreciate the point you’re making. I can’t buy in.
You need to grieve for a while before coming to the point you forgive the person who has done something like this.
If you can say you forgive this person in almost no time at all, it’s a massive insult to your relative.
If someone does something to you, then fine. Forgive when you like. I still think it’s best to allow the reality to sink in before you wax rhapsodic about total forgiveness.
The offender needs to come to grips with what he has done. What’s the rush to short-circuit that process?
I’m sorry, but I just couldn’t be forgiving. It makes me angry.
This reminds me of Dennis Prager’s thoughtful piece on the subject of forgiveness, under the title “The Sin of Forgivenss.”
http://metaphysicalperegrine.blogspot.com/2009/02/sin-of-forgiveness.html
Look. I said what I thought, but I realize that I shouldn’t have said it at all. Unfortunately, I can’t undo it.
the foregiving is not for the murdering scum, it is for mr. davis so his and his wife’s life isn’t completely destroyed as his daughter’s was. he has that right. anybody else who forgives this twisted evil bastard does not.
There is forgiveness on a personal level. That’s fine.
The state though is a different matter. The state must seek justice.
Also, I don’t recall anywhere in the scriptures where Christ said that the State should not seek justice.
The offender is already dead. The man had his daughter killed. There is no target for his hate, the smart thing is to not let the murderer take his life as well.
I was speaking with a devout Jew on FR a few months ago during the time leading up to Yom Kippur about issues of forgiveness. It got me thinking a lot about someone I have not forgiven because there is no way to hold them accountable and grieve.
It seems that when you wrong someone, Jewish people try three times to ask for forgiveness... and if the person you are asking for forgiveness does not grant it... that’s it, you did your best and you move past it...
I think I am on the 70x7 plan... it hurts... because I need some closure in the situation and the self blame is awful.
When God forgives, it does something good for the forgiven.
When humans forgive, it does something good for the forgiver. One can either forgive and reduce the acid that eats at their soul, or one can stand firm and live in mental and spiritual anguish.
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