Posted on 11/24/2013 12:14:34 PM PST by SeekAndFind
As a 78-year-old woman walked down the street in Brooklyn, carrying her purse and bags, a young black male, about 20 years old, punched her in the head as hard as he could and ran away. The man said nothing and didn’t steal a single item.
This is one of the latest instances of “Knockout,” a “game” of evidently increasing popularity. Young people — sometimes female but usually male, predominantly black, in their teens to early 20s, in groups or alone — approach unsuspecting strangers and punch them in the head as hard as possible with the intention to knock them unconscious with a single blow. Sometimes the aggressors will rob the victim, but usually violence itself is the purpose of the attack. Some of the attackers have even recorded videos of their exploits.
At various times and places, the “game” has been called “Knockout,” “Knockout King,” “One-Hitter-Quitter,” “Pick ’Em Out and Knock ’Em Down,” “Knock ’Em and Drop ’Em,” and “Polar-Bear Hunting” (most likely in reference to whites). The attacks are unprovoked and often happen in broad daylight.
They can be deadly.
So far, six fatalities resulting from Knockout have been documented. The first was of an MIT student in 1992, according to an Associated Press report. Yngve Raustein of Norway was approached by a group of teens who asked him what language he was speaking. They then proceeded to sucker-punch him in the face and rob him and his friend. Raustein immediately fell to the ground. When he tried to get up, the assailants stabbed him in the heart. Cambridge police at the time said that these attacks might be perpetrated by just a few kids.
The game was around before 1992, according to a St. Louis man named Askia who spoke with reporters in 2011. He described a similar game, “One-Hitter Quitter” (a name still used today), from the ’80s, when he was growing up. “We’d be out in the club or something and pick a random person and drop him to see if we could knock him out,” Askia said.
Former players have said that they did it for fun. Others speculate that the game is an attempt to demonstrate manhood and earn respect from peers.
After the murder in 1992, further reports of Knockout didn’t emerge until 2011, with the death of 72-year-old Hoan Nguyen. Nguyen, an immigrant from Vietnam, was walking down the street with his wife in St. Louis when an 18-year-old African American charged the couple, striking Hoan Nguyen directly in the face. He died later that day in the hospital. Soon after the Nguyen homicide, John H. Tucker of the Riverfront Times in St. Louis interviewed local youth who confessed to playing Knockout. The kids said it was popular, and one mother revealed that her son had played it as early as two years before the Nguyen incident. Some players were white; most were black.
Such attacks continued in St. Louis throughout that year, with ten known attacks over a 15-month period up to December 2011, including nonfatal attacks on two men, 73 and 51 years old. Reports of attacks began popping up elsewhere, including Illinois, Nevada, and Washington, D.C.
More reports of the game arose over the next two years, including two more deaths in 2012 and another two in 2013. Delfino Mora in Chicago and Colton Gleason in St. Cloud, Minn., were both fatally punched in the face. Mora, who was scavenging for recyclables before being assaulted, was found three hours after the attack on July 10 of this year. Blood was seeping from his nose. He died the next day. Gleason died in the hospital on September 21 within hours after he was attacked. Neither knew his attackers or had provoked the attack.
Two more people — Michael Daniels of Syracuse, N.Y., and Raphael Santiago of Hoboken, N.J. — were killed in May and September of 2013, respectively, in games of Knockout.
Further reports of Knockout have surfaced in the past week, including an assault in San Diego, the first reported on the West Coast. Recently, the attacks have been most prominent in Brooklyn, where eight victims, primarily white Jews, have been randomly targeted by black teens in games of, as New York City police commissioner Ray Kelly called it, “Knockout” and “Polarbearing.”
In all, incidents of “Knockout” have been reported in Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Missouri, the District of Columbia, and now California. Most of the victims have been whites and Asians, and attackers tend to target Jews, immigrants, and the elderly in particular. Most of the attackers have been African American.
“This was purely a wanton incident,” said Rita, the daughter of the 78-year-old woman attacked in Brooklyn. “Someone wanted to inflict pain onto someone else, no other purpose.”
— Alec Torres is a William F. Buckley Fellow at the National Review Institute.
The media vermin do not report the black people felled by this devilish ‘game’, but there are more black people attacked by black thugs.
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Why would someone need a high-capacity magazine???
Question to communist governor Chickenpooper! Communist state senator evie hudecccckkk. Morsi and Giron... you are white too. Post your addresses for your whuppin by the hood!!!
You're right on this... lots of honest hard working black people are almost prisoners in their homes because thugs run the streets.
When I was a kid, I remember older teens talking about going “n****r bricking,” in which one guy would drive the car and the other guy would lean out the window and throw a brick at a black person walking down the road. If you missed, you had to go back and get the brick.
“sometimes female but usually male, predominantly black, in their teens to early 20s, in groups or alone”
“predominantly African-American”
So, there are other races knocking people out?
These uncivilized, feral street-apes need to experience Justice for their racist hate crimes. Justice can come in many ways.
The goal is not pain...... the goal is the projection of power.
I tend to on at length about the Tueller Drill, and generally my conclusion is that if you are armed with a gun, you also need a knife in the other hand, as a very short range weapon, to neutralize the Tueller distance.
This is very comparable to the WWI “in the trench, trench warfare” technique of a pistol in one hand and a trench knife in the other; which also extrapolates nicely to indoor domestic combat, since indoors in an apartment or house is effectively the same as an above-ground trench with a ceiling.
Whew. But this being said, the Tueller drill is a prepared, hostile situation, designed to train LEOs. There is very little spontaneity or attempt to deceive. Thus it is an unnatural situation, especially in a civilian-civilian encounter.
Make a mental image of you walking down the street when you see a group of five young black men. One of them approaches you, while walking, not running, saying something to (possibly) deceive you while “closing the gap”.
His effort is to appear and *sound* like a polite person, while getting close enough for a cheap shot (maybe). He is likely not even obviously armed.
One of the biggest clues something is wrong, is that his group are gazing at you intently, waiting to attack until you have been punched.
It is up to your judgment to determine reasonableness, and for most people, this is under five feet(!), just outside of standing, maybe thrusting, punch range. Unless it happens in a bad situation, like at night in a bad neighborhood, you almost have to assume that public encounters are genuine, because you get so many of them.
It is this kind of circumstance where a knife is optimal, because you can discreetly brandish it, handle in hand but blade hidden behind forearm, and if he gets very close, he still likely loses. His cheap shot attempt results in his getting a bad gash or two.
This then is when your pistol comes into play. Once ill intent is established, the pistol is at the ideal range to fend off his companions. You are at Tueller range, and they have no momentum, so they lose big time if they start to charge.
Should that cultural phenomenon happen on a broader scale, should roving gangs of white youths go on the warpath, there will be the chaos we had there, only on a massive scale.
It will be the opening return salvos of the race war Obama, Holder, and their minions seem to crave for the sake of consolidating even more power in the Federal Leviathan, and the outright suspension of the Constitution they view as the last impediment to that power, with whatever persecution they can justify for those who would uphold that Constitution.
This is why Federal LEOs are being programmed with the idea that patriotic Americans who hold traditional American beliefs about such archaic concepts as a Constitutional Republic, rule of law, and "Rights" are the enemy, and why the military is being purged of an officer corps which places country above career.
The objective, of course, is a police state, or at least ongoing Martial Law.
Valerie Jarrett's "paybacks"?
For this reason I obtained a hammerless S&W airweight .38+P revolver. Forget drawing the weapon, fire right through the pocket. Even my best coat is cheaper than me. I love semi-autos, but you can’t get a second shot from inside a coat pocket, and then, after you draw, you have to clear the inevitable jam.
The Jewish guy who was the target of a "knockout" attack in Brooklyn on Friday, was attacked by a Muslim
Re your post 108, that was some very interesting and useful information.
Thanks for sharing.
And I thank you, Smokin’ Joe, for passing on that info. I’ve got a S&W airweight .32 magnum revolver but it has an exposed hammer. Alas, it would not work for me under the situations we’ve been discussing.
I am looking more and more to “common sense mathematics” in such encounters these days, that is, calculating feet and fractions of seconds.
What is really needed is for a group of fighting oriented individuals to imagine several drills that they video specifically to record distance, time and actions. Think of it as “intermediate Tueller drill”, for civilians.
I’ve tried to do this with a hypothetical armed robbery mugging and reached some startling conclusions, namely that if you have concealed carry when you are mugged-robbed, you have enormous advantages over the armed robber, even if their weapon in brandished at you and cocked.
This really needs to be documented and understood by experts, because it completely changes the tactics used. And that is just in a simple, one-on-one encounter. An individual against a group has all sorts of dynamics beyond that, and strongly overlaps into martial arts as well.
Could you amplify on the statement that a CC person has advantages over an attacker even if that attacker has gun cocked and pointed at him? That just sounds so counter-intuitive.
BTW, I looked up the Tueller Drill and found that it states it takes a person (presumably in good physical shape) only 1.5 seconds to close in from 20 feet out. That’s the exact number we came up with in that class and none of us knew about Tueller. It’s possible the instructor knew (most likely he did) but I cannot recall him saying as such.
Remember that Tueller is intended to teach LEOs, who are already prepared and expecting to be attacked. Ordinary citizens going about their business, not expecting trouble, are going to need a huge lead time for that kind of attack.
In any event, on to the mugger scenario. The whole thing is cumulative.
To start with, a robber-mugger wants to steal from you, then get away. He does not want to be witnessed, or for anyone to sneak up behind him. He does not even want to injure or kill you, just to get your stuff. And he does not know that you are armed.
For your part, you have focus. You want to draw your weapon and shoot the mugger. You can do so at *any* time, even when he is leaving. To “cooperate” with the mugger you have to dig around in your pockets, and he is expecting you to, and pass, or better idea toss, your stuff at him. It is unlikely he will catch what you throw, and have to look at it, and reach down to get it.
While his gun is brandished and generally pointed at you, it is unlikely that his barrel is going to be consistently pointed at you. His mind is all over the place, even if he is sober.
The almost universal error in just brandishing a gun, even when the police do it, is to assume that it gives you power over others and control of a situation. Smart police learn that this power and control are weak illusions, so their gun stays holstered until they need to shoot it.
In any event, start adding up such things to see the real advantages of CC.
But wait, there’s more. The icing on the cake. Such criminals are often fortified with drink and drugs, which is a big time handicap. And a police secret is about half of the guns used by criminals are not functional. Broken, wrong sized bullets, no bullets, etc. While you cannot assume either of these things, if they are the case, better for you.
Going through a mugging drill with a competent friend, all these details really stick out. I encourage gun users to see for themselves.
After reading your post, I suppose it is not at all counter-intuitive to understand that if you are armed and have quick access to your gun and can take advantage of the perp’s weaknesses, you do have certain advantages in a hold-up situation.
I always enjoy reading your clear explanations of things. You obviously have a well of wide-ranging knowledge upon which to you draw. Bravo.
It begs the experiment.
Oddly enough, the physicist Neils Bohr (1885-1962) was fascinated with Hollywood westerns. He noticed that when there was a gun duel, the good guy always drew *second*, but shot the bad guy who drew first. While he could have written it off as a movie convention, something struck him about it as having a deeper meaning.
So there was one of the most brilliant physicists in the world, with several of his equally brilliant physicist peers, having very carefully analyzed gunfights with cap pistols.
And Bohr established that in many circumstances, the human brain reacts faster than it acts, by a relatively long time in milliseconds. This was not physically proven by neurologists for well over half a century. Ironically, they only did it to prove or disprove Bohr’s theory, yet in doing so opened the door to several other neurological discoveries.
If you haven’t seen it, William Shatner was in a TV drama involving a concealed carrier being mugged by an armed criminal. Ignoring the silliness of the dialogue, look at it tactically, as if it was a serious situation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erqVUhwvybI
Cut through the acting, stuff like Shatner showing his gun before using it, and there are some really good timing points there. The biggest mistake was the violation of “Tuco’s rule”:
“When you have to shoot, shoot. Don’t talk.”
Thanks for the additional information and the link.
Unfortunately, my computer is having some video problems right now. Just as soon as I can get them resolved I’ll look at it.
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