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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Could you amplify on the statement that a CC person has advantages over an attacker even if that attacker has gun cocked and pointed at him? That just sounds so counter-intuitive.

BTW, I looked up the Tueller Drill and found that it states it takes a person (presumably in good physical shape) only 1.5 seconds to close in from 20 feet out. That’s the exact number we came up with in that class and none of us knew about Tueller. It’s possible the instructor knew (most likely he did) but I cannot recall him saying as such.


116 posted on 11/26/2013 8:45:29 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: OldPossum

Remember that Tueller is intended to teach LEOs, who are already prepared and expecting to be attacked. Ordinary citizens going about their business, not expecting trouble, are going to need a huge lead time for that kind of attack.

In any event, on to the mugger scenario. The whole thing is cumulative.

To start with, a robber-mugger wants to steal from you, then get away. He does not want to be witnessed, or for anyone to sneak up behind him. He does not even want to injure or kill you, just to get your stuff. And he does not know that you are armed.

For your part, you have focus. You want to draw your weapon and shoot the mugger. You can do so at *any* time, even when he is leaving. To “cooperate” with the mugger you have to dig around in your pockets, and he is expecting you to, and pass, or better idea toss, your stuff at him. It is unlikely he will catch what you throw, and have to look at it, and reach down to get it.

While his gun is brandished and generally pointed at you, it is unlikely that his barrel is going to be consistently pointed at you. His mind is all over the place, even if he is sober.

The almost universal error in just brandishing a gun, even when the police do it, is to assume that it gives you power over others and control of a situation. Smart police learn that this power and control are weak illusions, so their gun stays holstered until they need to shoot it.

In any event, start adding up such things to see the real advantages of CC.

But wait, there’s more. The icing on the cake. Such criminals are often fortified with drink and drugs, which is a big time handicap. And a police secret is about half of the guns used by criminals are not functional. Broken, wrong sized bullets, no bullets, etc. While you cannot assume either of these things, if they are the case, better for you.

Going through a mugging drill with a competent friend, all these details really stick out. I encourage gun users to see for themselves.


117 posted on 11/26/2013 11:12:28 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (War on Terror news at rantburg.com)
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