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PT Standards in Question for Women in Combat
Military.com ^ | November 14, 2013 | Matthew Cox

Posted on 11/18/2013 10:48:36 AM PST by QT3.14

The Marine Corps may have to change its physical standards in order to put females in positions to one day lead infantry platoons in combat.

Both the Marine Corps and the Army continue to wrestle with the mandate that former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta issued in January, directing the U.S. military to open hundreds of combat-arms jobs that have been closed to female servicemembers.

So far, the Marines have been out ahead.

(Excerpt) Read more at military.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bhodod; combat; military; militarywomen; usmilitary; womenincombat
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To: QT3.14

You are way ahead of the curve as what you fear is what is going to happen. The next war will be won by that army without women combat soldiers.


41 posted on 11/18/2013 12:00:07 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: QT3.14
From the article:

"Female Marine officers attempting to enter the Infantry Officer Course are not expected to meet the same physical fitness screening standards as male Marines, but they do have to match male performance in the course."

Believe...........

42 posted on 11/18/2013 12:00:18 PM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: central_va
It stands for Phone Talking standards, the ability to communicate over radios etc.

LOL. This is the the training that forward observers use to call in artillery.

43 posted on 11/18/2013 12:09:52 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals want to be eaten last. I don't want to be eaten at all!)
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To: lacrew
I take it you’ve never been in the Army. Everything is abbreviated, to the point of absurdity.

LOL. IKR?

44 posted on 11/18/2013 12:18:04 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals want to be eaten last. I don't want to be eaten at all!)
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To: QT3.14

Any society that sends its women to fight before it sends the non-shaving boys and cane-borne old men deserves to be destroyed.


45 posted on 11/18/2013 12:42:15 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: QT3.14

46 posted on 11/18/2013 12:50:49 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: lacrew

BOHICA is the motto of the current regime.


47 posted on 11/18/2013 12:57:38 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Were you combat loaded with Ruck? My experience is unloaded the girls were as good as the guys. Loaded 60-80# a different story.


48 posted on 11/18/2013 1:12:43 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: QT3.14

Women should be required to register for the draft. For too many years, females have been voting liberal because they don’t have to worry about being drafted in a big war. It’s easy to vote to cut the military budget when you’re sitting at home with your biggest concern being what eyeliner to wear. It’s about time that they started worrying about taking a bayonet in the guts. They might start paying more attention to elections.


49 posted on 11/18/2013 1:17:29 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: DariusBane
A male, 19, doing 50 pushups is a fail if my memory serves me correctly. But you get the point in any case.

That's not correct. Army PT standards in basic training for ages 17-21 are 35 pushups, 47 situps and a two-mile run in 16:46 or less. These standards rise in AIT. My soldier did 48/72/14:05 just two weeks ago.

http://www.military.com/military-fitness/army-fitness-requirements/army-basic-training-pft

50 posted on 11/18/2013 1:17:37 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: jsanders2001

And I would say the the guys were equal. I knew some guys who could shoot also. Shooting is hand eye coordination so gals did just fine at that, or as well as the guys. But since we are no longer an agricultural country most don’t have a lot of experience handling firearms.


51 posted on 11/18/2013 1:20:06 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: DariusBane

That said, the standard for females in basic is 13/47/19:42. Which is of course nowhere near the male standard.


52 posted on 11/18/2013 1:20:12 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: DPMD

Probably synchronized swimming also.


53 posted on 11/18/2013 1:26:52 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: blueunicorn6
Women should be required to register for the draft.

And, you don't see them demonstrating for the right to be drafted being 'equal' to males.

The 'excuse' by Congress in the past to exclude females is at the time they were not allowed in combat/war zones. Now they are, but won't include women in the draft.

54 posted on 11/18/2013 1:36:43 PM PST by QT3.14 (USA born 7.4.1776 fathered by geniuses - died 11.4.2008 (Suicide) by idiots and traitors)
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To: QT3.14

It is approaching 40 years that we have been playing this game, women can’t cut it and we know that, and have known it since the beginning of time, yet decade after decade the same old inaccurate phrases are repeated, “as long as standards don’t change”, “as long as females meet the same standard as the males”, “females can shoot a gun accurately” (so can 70 year old amputees), and on and on.


55 posted on 11/18/2013 1:48:24 PM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: Klaatu Barada Nikto

Females have better vision and hand eye coordination for detail work.

Dat’s why the USSR had mostly female surgeons.

My female handgun students take to guns like the proverbial duck to water.


56 posted on 11/18/2013 1:52:10 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Like I said, it was 1988 so memory is fuzzy. But I did recall going into my reserve unit and the girls pretty much walked the 2 mile run...

I was a bit of a stud at that age and I made a 280 + composite score. But the females could do that without putting up big numbers. Just didn’t seem right.


57 posted on 11/18/2013 2:09:49 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: DariusBane

Then you did a marvelous job. Thanks for your service. :)


58 posted on 11/18/2013 2:32:37 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: central_va

LOL, I can do that! Can’t do any of the crud my Marine son does. Can barely lift his vest with the plates in it. I’ll just blame it on my age and too much keyboarding at Free Republic.


59 posted on 11/18/2013 2:41:33 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Chainmail

:) I got pissed at first, always over react until I re-read it a couple of times and see the /s, and now I have a blurry monitor. Typical female.

We lost another soldier in Kandahar, from DOD:

Staff Sgt. Alex A. Viola, 29, of Keller, Texas, died Nov. 17, in Kandahar, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when his unit was attacked with an improvised explosive device while on dismounted patrol.

He was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 7th Special Forces Group (Airborne), Eglin Air Force Base, Fla.


60 posted on 11/18/2013 2:54:06 PM PST by huldah1776
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