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Upton to Limbaugh: Maybe you should have ‘checked in with us’ before criticizing House delay
The Daily Caller ^ | 11/16/2013 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 11/16/2013 6:53:21 PM PST by markomalley

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To: Nahhh I Dont Think So
I’m sick of repubs bitching about Uptons bill - it effectively completely repeals Obamacare for 1 year (allowing everyone to buy non-Exchange plans), and is a bill that would stand a good chance of continually getting reupped as the law disintegrates.

I can see that you've had a vast amount of experience upon which to base this opinion of yours.

Hint: Free Republic isn't a warehouse of GOPe sycophants.

41 posted on 11/16/2013 7:26:21 PM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Nahhh I Dont Think So
it effectively completely repeals Obamacare for 1 year (allowing everyone to buy non-Exchange plans)

What "non-exchange plans?"

Those plans are DEAD.
Do you think insurance companies (after they have to get approved again through their respective state regulator) are going to renew the plans, knowing that they will get cancelled again next fall?

and is a bill that would stand a good chance of continually getting reupped as the law disintegrates

Upton's bill is only for the individual plans.
What does his bill do for the massive Employer plans that are going to get cancelled next year?

42 posted on 11/16/2013 7:26:39 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: Nahhh I Dont Think So

You don’t appear to think at all noobie.


43 posted on 11/16/2013 7:28:02 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Nahhh I Dont Think So
And the cancellation notices will be sent out when?

If you don't know this you're either a democrat are stupid enough to be in the running. Some 5 million Americans have already lost their insurance as the law required.
44 posted on 11/16/2013 7:29:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: markomalley

What is so difficult for the Republican party to understand that this is the Democrats Tar Baby and to keep their hand off of it!


45 posted on 11/16/2013 7:29:48 PM PST by sjmjax (Politicans are much like bananas. They start off green, turn yellow then rot.)
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To: dforest

I cancelled my insurance on my own (will not renew) as 1.) my company-provided policy is ridiculous in price even with the company paying half, and 2.) I refuse to allow my government to tell me what provisions I must make for contingencies that pertain to my life.

How the people of this country are willing to sacrifice freedom and prosperity for the fake promise of a cushy life under medical care is beyond me. This bamboozling has taken decades to come to light, but there it is. Good grief. Did our forefathers not enjoy a full life without health insurance? To expect medicine to give life (I understand how when used responsibly it is of great benefit) . . . that is no way to live. Same goes for fame and wealth. I’m finished with those games. I know where I came from, and where I am going. It’s that simple.


46 posted on 11/16/2013 7:30:39 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: markomalley

You don’t tug on Superman’s cape
You don’t spit into the wind
You don’t pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger
And you don’t mess around with Rush


47 posted on 11/16/2013 7:31:18 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: markomalley

While Barry wanted to be a miracle worker and lower the seas and heal the planet, Upton wants to re-animate a mummy. There is no way to re-issue polices to the people who have been canceled. Fred “Dim-Bulb” Upton is/was wasting his time on a fell-good move that is a fool’s errand.


48 posted on 11/16/2013 7:32:51 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Nahhh I Dont Think So
And the cancellation notices will be sent out when?

Forget the cancellation notices. The insurance companies aren't obligated to re-instate the plans. And they have to go through the state regulator. Several state insurance commissioners have already told Obama to pound sand. You now have uncertainty because the insurance companies aren't sure where this is leading to.

...oh yeah, Aug-Oct - you know, just like this year. That means everyone would again be getting kicked right before Midterms, and Dems would again have the same prob they have today, just on steroids!

All Obama have to do is order the next round of cancellation letters to be mailed until mid to late November, when the Dems retake Congress because the Stupid Party gave them a lifeline.

That is why I say it would likely get reupped, and likely for 2 years at that time, meaning Obamacare is effectively repealed until 2016 (and Obama would be desperately trying to keep the exchanges afloat, instead of us trying to do the opposite)

Why don't you just advocate a full repeal NOW, instead of trying to be cute and play politics with ruthless leftists?

49 posted on 11/16/2013 7:33:13 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Remember when cartoons used to use LIGHTBULBS as a sign that someone was “thinking” -— we need someone to do such a cartoon about Upton.
What IS he thinking?


50 posted on 11/16/2013 7:33:50 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: markomalley

Lol sorry Upton He’s smarter than you and he don’t lie for a living !


51 posted on 11/16/2013 7:34:41 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (I'm not afraid to say what i mean nor should you be afraid of what you know to be true !)
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To: Nahhh I Dont Think So
You are living in a dream world.

Cancellation notices require only 30 days. They can be sent out as late as November 30th and still be in effect when 0bama's grace period (or the Republican grace period) expires. One year is nothing more than yet one more bailout.

52 posted on 11/16/2013 7:35:02 PM PST by FredZarguna (The sequel, thoroughly pointless, derivative, and boring was like all James Cameron "films.")
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To: livius

You are wrong.
The conservative movement owes a great deal to Rush Limbaugh.


53 posted on 11/16/2013 7:38:03 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Soul of the South

“eliminating the cost of employee health care premiums from their income statements.”

The expense is still there and larger than ever. Their profits will be tighter, their domestic customers more miserly and their investors more demanding.
They wanted what the Dems promised them, but what they’ve gotten is horrible.


54 posted on 11/16/2013 7:38:32 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: markomalley

If the Republicans (I was one once but am hard core Libertarian now) had any sense, they should announce they will assist President Obama in the full implementation of Obama Care to be finalized within 6 months for everyone.

They should insist the Obamacare include Congress, Labor Unions, government workers, and retired government workers. I would exclude the military as they have been screwed over enough by Obama.

In effect this would mean the cancellation of about 100 million policies in the private sector. This would ensure the total destruction of Obama and the Democrat Party.

If you have noticed the administration is very open to delaying Obamacare but not repealing Obamacare. This means they are still intent on destroying those 100 million polices after the 2014 Congressional elections.

If Obama does not agree to this, go home and do not pass, approve or even consider an extension on the debt limit.

Obama knows how to play hardball. It is time the wimp party, also known as the Republican Party, grow a set of balls.

ps
Make sure John McCain get back on his meds. Otherwise, he and the other RINOS will again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


55 posted on 11/16/2013 7:38:33 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: markomalley

Huh?

So a bill that effectively repeals Obamacare for a year, one that has all the Progressives screaming bloody murder, well it is bad because... I don’t have a profile or something?

Again,

Effectivly Obamacare, instead saying any policy offered before Oct1 can be offered to anyone(!) for 2014

All pre-existing condition people will go to exchanges, but since the webpage doesn’t work, all healthy people woild be able to buy cheap plans from ins cos (which they would sale since its better then having no signups from the exchange)

Then in Aug-Oct 2014, all those plans are again cancelled, and Dems are again in panic mode

Meanwhile, 2015 costs on exchange skyrocket because no one signed up gor the exchange

...seriously, where is even 1 problem with the bill outside of the hyperbole “he must be a rino, get him!!!! 1!!” Witchunt stuff?

Because I can honestly not see even one negative aspect in it (but the positives are extreme, which is why Pelosi is calling it a “poisoned pill” and Obama desperately tried to get out in front of it to try and stop the vote/support)

Really, I think people upset with the bill are thinking with blind to rage or something since all logical thought would say it would be a devastating blow to Obamacare and huge win for Repubs (hence all voting for it)


56 posted on 11/16/2013 7:39:15 PM PST by Nahhh I Dont Think So
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
All they have to do is order Obama to repeal the law . . .

Law? What law? What we have is a morphing mash of edicts from a pseudo king subject to adjustment at whim, throwing both public and private business into chaos. It's way past time for impeachment.

57 posted on 11/16/2013 7:39:59 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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58 posted on 11/16/2013 7:42:34 PM PST by Bratch
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To: markomalley
I can't wait for the night of January 15th when Upton Abbey returns to TV for its fourth season.

Leni

59 posted on 11/16/2013 7:42:40 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: svcw

Just see my tag line as to why Pubbies wanted this.


60 posted on 11/16/2013 7:42:58 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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