[TexasGator]

“Know what libertarian young people like?”

Drugs

[Cicero]

AKA left-wing libertarian. I don’t know how many times history has demonstrated that you cannot have real freedom without responsibility. If people cannot discipline themselves, then the police will do it for them. That is inevitable.

If people choose to be gay, let them do it off privately somewhere, not impose it on everyone down to kindergarteners.

If people want unlimited rights to abortion, let them . . . No, sorry, there is no right to kill or enslave people because they are convenient. And, contrary to what they say, it’s the same statist Democrats who supported slavery who now support baby killing and euthanasia of the old and inconvenient.

That’s not freedom. Or, if you like, it’s freedom for me, but not for thee.

[stevie_d_64]

Libertarianism by its intentions that are well documented, is not conservative...

It makes noises, and faces towards conservatism, but it is from the indications that it has its back into the political pundulum swing to the liberal side of that swing...

People call both sides of this political landscape as extremist, and uncompramising...

Well, I happen to believe Libertarianism is weak, much like tepid water that is neither refreshing, or desirable...

Just my opinion...

[Carry_Okie]

More than half of the country supports gay marriage.

A libertarian would be an idiot to support gay marriage, because the disaster of such families will produce children raised as wards of the State.

[Steve_Seattle]

"Inclusivity is the best way for libertarianism to grow."

The problem with that is that "inclusivity" typically veers into its opposite, as when a live-and-let-live attitude towards gay marriage is followed by a demand to punish - civilly or criminally - those who oppose gay marriage. Or a tolerant attitude towards legal abortion is followed by a demand that those who oppose abortion be required to pay for it.

[MUDDOG]

Life will not be pleasant under the McAuliffe regime.

[amnestynone]

Libertarians have a built in self destructive bomb. They don’t believe in governement hence they believe inopen borders. They help turn this country into a third world society and the Dem’s buy off the new voters and we have a socialist country. Make sense? If you think this makes sense then go ahead and vote Libertarian.

[GeronL]

libertopians are not for any kind of responsibility, they are for license not liberty.

[Servant of the Cross]

Yesterday, Derek Hunter declared that libertarianism has entirely lost its meaning, that the party has devolved into a catch-all for people who want to criticize the government without doing anything about it.

Derek Hunter nailed it. You can tell from Rachel's overly emotional defensiveness and completely clueless definition of 'libertarianism' ...

Libertarianism is rebranding itself to be more inclusive. Now more than ever, it is accepting of LGBT people, encourages women to have a voice, and has different social media groups targeted to different minorities. Inclusivity is the best way for libertarianism to grow.

... that Hunter is directly over the target ....

'libertarianism lost its meaning' ping.

[CitizenUSA]

The libertarians this author claims to represent are social liberals. Good luck with that! You cannot have small government is a society that’s largely made up of immoral people. Immoral people will inevitably vote for big government to save them from the ramifications of their mistakes. Doubt me? What’s the percentage of single moms who vote libertarian?

Libertarianism is a pipe dream! The closest America ever got to libertarianism was back at the founding when the country was sparsely populated. It’s a much smaller country now population wise, and it’s far more difficult to live as one pleases without interfering with the rights of others. Even if the libertarians themselves can live responsible lives without government guidance, there are many millions more who will never, ever vote to give up the big government that shields them from their mistakes.

[SpeakerToAnimals]

Know what libertarian young people like? The young guns of the Tea Party, and even Ron Paul. No one can expect them to get behind the elders who insult their heroes as “wacko birds.”

Well lookie here. According to this the youngsters like Ted Cruz and Rand and Ron Paul. Perhaps there is not so wide a gulf between conservatives and libertarians after all. If all Americans unite on the fiscal issues we may yet survive as a Nation.

[DB]

Young people lack wisdom due to a lack of experience.

Being led by “young people” is a sure fire way to crash and burn...

[ilgipper]

So when Hunter exclaims that McCain would have been better than Obama, or Cuccinelli better than Sarvis or McAuliffe, he is speaking for himself, not for all libertarians

McCain, no. Cuccinelli, undeniably. If a group has 96 disapproval for Obamacare, Cuccinelli was the person they needed to back. He is one of THE national leaders against the law. Lumping all Republicans from McCain to Cuccinelli as one is not intellectually honest. If libertarians (or Libertarians) want to be politically relevant, they need to join and support Republican candidates who share their views. The Libertarian party will never pas s 10% in any election, so they are just acting as a spoiler for left wing Democrat candidates. Join in, push for libertarian-minded candidates in the party (just as Tea Partiers have been pushing for similar candidates), and pull Washington back in the right direction.

[i_robot73]

Amazing the hostility for the ‘kook’ 2-4% I see here. Gee, maybe if the GOP ran on a message (and track record) based on the Constitution they’d win more elections.

Last time I can remember the GOP having the whole of D.C. what did they repeal? *crickets*....Dept. abolished? *crickets* Debt paid? *crickets*. Nope, We all got No Child Left Behind, expansion of Medicaid (care? who cares), TSA, NSA, etc. etc. etc.

Even now, facing the ‘14 and ‘16 elections, what is the word from ‘on high’?? Amnesty, ‘fixing’ healthcare, ‘fixing’ the tax system, etc. Sure sounds (C) to me to want to cast in with that lot. Hummm, why would ANY (L) give them another chance??

Instead, it’s the ‘fringe’ (L), whom run on re: A1S8 (and sure, there are some planks *I* don’t support), that get the hot-potato (as if those votes were the (R) to begin). Yeah, THAT makes a whole hell of a lot of sense.

Might want to clean up in-house before looking to the other parties for blame. I can easily presume this to be another (L) bashing thread while Rome burns, while getting a generous posting of (C) ‘moral superiority’.

Instead, all should ‘joining hands’ on those similarities to bring things back where they should. Unfortunately, to many, that’s too much crow/pride/ego.

/soap box off

[bert]

I have observed that conservatives reject libertarians for a host of reasons but mostly because they lack Christ like purity

[Mr. Jeeves]

Yesterday, Derek Hunter declared that libertarianism has entirely lost its meaning, that the party has devolved into a catch-all for people who want to criticize the government without doing anything about it.

I see the Libertarian Party as a gathering place for self-indulgent people who love the mechanics of the political process but are not allowed to play with the Big Boys in the other parties due to lack of gravitas or experience. Commitment to ideals or governing visions seems to be sadly lacking, and many LP candidates seem to be nothing more than third-string Democrats or Republicans, with ideologies to match.

The gap between the Libertarian Party and small "l" libertarians has never been greater.

[Rodamala]

The real reason "Big L" Libertarians "won't settle" for conservatism is because Libertarians (as opposed to Reagan libertarians like myself... and quite a few Freepers, actually) are all low empathy, self-serving, pothead hedonists to such a degree that they are actually showing themselves as nothing less than clinical sociopaths.

This brand of "Libertarian" has no care in the world for the Republic or societal values and mores. Is there any reason not to expect this spoiled brat Millenial Generation, sipping on Pumpkin Spiced Lattes, in their white-rimmed Oakley sunglasses and skinny jeans/yoga pants, to be anything less than self-serving hipster douchebag Libertarians?

Get off the lawn!

[Responsibility2nd]

Those Derek Hunter articles nailed it. Click keyword libertarian and read them. Great stuff. He has put libs in their place, and they don’t like it.

Boo freaking hoo.

[ez]

Hmm. Only five percent of libertarians are Democrats while 45% are Republican. This puts the lie to a popular meme around here.

[wintertime]

I was very active in the Libertarian Party about 10 years ago. I finally quit. The Libertarian Party would be **far** more effective if it were an organization like the National Rife Association.

I am now active in a local Tea Party.