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Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'
http://newsbusters.org ^ | 11/01/2013 | By Noel Sheppard

Posted on 11/01/2013 11:49:56 AM PDT by Maelstorm

Since the government shutdown, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting some media member claiming Republicans are in a lot of trouble heading into next year's midterm elections.

Breaking with the trend rather surprisingly Wednesday was the perilously liberal Mother Jones with a piece titled "New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble."

The poll was actually from James Carville and Stan Greenberg's Democracy Corps and was titled "The Revolt Against Washington and the Republican Congress."

Despite Carville and Greenberg's conclusions, author Kevin Drum dug deeper into the specifics to find some contrary nuggets:

In Democratic districts, net incumbent approval has plummeted by 11 points, from +8 approval to +3 disapproval. In Republican districts, incumbent approval has gone down only 4 points. You see the same results when they ask a question about warmth of feeling toward incumbents: It's down 7 points in Republican districts and 9 points in Democratic districts.

This isn't good news for Democrats. It's true that attitudes toward the Republican Party have taken a bigger hit than attitudes toward the Democratic Party, but attitudes toward actual incumbents are exactly the opposite. And in elections, that's what matters.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016election; abortion; benghazi; deathpanels; democracycorps; democrats; election2014; election2016; fastandfurious; impeachnow; irs; jamescarville; motherjones; obamacare; polls; stangreenberg; zerocare
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To: Maelstorm

My Boy Steny Hoyer doesn’t have to worry. Maryland is filled with Obama voters , people with the mentality of Sheila Jackson Lee who will keep carrying Steny in office until he overdoses on kissing Pelosi’s butt.


21 posted on 11/01/2013 12:05:51 PM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

I probably should revise that statement I think the GOP probably can’t screw up more unless of course they campaign against the Tea Party and insist on pushing Amnesty but even then the fall out from Obamacare may be so big as to dwarf any scewup they make. I think this Obamacare thing is going to kill the Democrats honestly. Its becoming a reality everyday how very screwed up it is and how very much the President lied about it. People are losing their healthcare and facing huge additional costs and that is something people will take personally and they will vote on it.


22 posted on 11/01/2013 12:06:04 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Obamacare is your healthcare on stupid.)
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To: Maelstorm

> “It’s true that attitudes toward the Republican Party have taken a bigger hit than attitudes toward the Democratic Party, but attitudes toward actual incumbents are exactly the opposite. And in elections, that’s what matters.”

The reason for the bigger hit to the Republican Party is because their base is fed up with them.

The hit to democrat incumbents reveals attitudes independent of the republican base.


23 posted on 11/01/2013 12:07:50 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Maelstorm

If the Republicans spent half as much time, energy, and resources going after the Democrats as they do each other. They might start winning elections again. Memo to Liz Cheney.


24 posted on 11/01/2013 12:08:33 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: onyx
thanks, for the information.

25 posted on 11/01/2013 12:08:58 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Maelstorm

This crap about how badly the Republican have been hurt by the shutdown is just...well, crap - it doesn’t account for the fact that many of those complaining about the ‘pubs are themselves ‘pubs - Tea Partiers who don’t like Rinos, and Rinos who can’t stand Tea Partiers - come the election, there may be some dropoff on both sides but a lot of those unhappy that things aren’t closer to optimum will still go vote for the GOP ticket - any given Republican is better than any ‘rat any old day......


26 posted on 11/01/2013 12:09:45 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Maelstorm

Come Election Day I hope they all gat fired!!!


27 posted on 11/01/2013 12:10:54 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Maelstorm
...alas the GOP hires some insider instead of really finding retail talent

It was glaring to me that Karl Rove's opposition to the Tea Parties is all about the money. Consultants at high dollar who get marginal results. An all out branding campaign should have happen years ago.

28 posted on 11/01/2013 12:11:19 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Obama is a liar.)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

You are exactly right. Gallup polls on the role of government show clear super majorities in favor of smaller limited constitutional government. The only problem the GOP has is that it is dependent on big donors many of which don’t see small limited constitutional government as in their best interests. We have seen many of these types rear their ugly heads in places like the US chamberpot of commerce. We have two distinct enemies that we are fighting. A big money political class and a leftist insurgency.


29 posted on 11/01/2013 12:13:37 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Obamacare is your healthcare on stupid.)
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To: Maelstorm

Maelstorm, while it would be a great thing to see the dhimmicrap majority take a serious slap in 2014, we have to also ask whether a pubbie majority in the House and the Senate would be willing (forget ‘able’) to repeal Zerocare.

For many conservatives, the pubbies have morphed into dhimmicrap-lite and it is highly unlikely that such repeal would be in the cards. Even if repealed at the Congressional level, surely Zero would veto.

That leaves defunding as the mechanism to defang this garbage legislation. And, if it’s allowed to take root, at all, then the possibilities of repeal drop dramatically. As a practical exercise, when was the last time such an impactful intrusion into the lives of the American people was repealed?

Time to elect TRUE conservatives; people who will stand on principles of smaller government, constitutional government, controlled spending, balanced budgets, within the constraints of the enumerated powers.


30 posted on 11/01/2013 12:14:03 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: Maelstorm
Obamacare is going to kill Democrats in 2014 provided the GOP doesn't do anything stupid.

Do you have any faith in that?

31 posted on 11/01/2013 12:14:57 PM PDT by Digger
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To: Maelstorm

It ain’t so much that the democrats are telling us such obvious lies.

It’s that they don’t respect us enough to bother telling GOOD lies.


32 posted on 11/01/2013 12:15:23 PM PDT by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: PubliusMM

If 0care is such an issue that it adds to the GOP majority in the House and creates a GOP majority in the Senate, a significant remainder of the Dems in both houses may be willing to join with the GOP in overriding the veto of a seriously damaged lame duck POTUS to repeal 0care.

Not saying that will happen. But the odds are better than nil.


33 posted on 11/01/2013 12:20:27 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: PubliusMM

Those are two distinct problems. Neither have to be dealt with all at once. If they win and don’t repeal the GOP will suffer a huge cost.


34 posted on 11/01/2013 12:20:30 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Obamacare is your healthcare on stupid.)
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To: Maelstorm

best thing to do is for us, who are polled, is to LIE. Tell them hell yes we’re pissed and voting democrat, maybe make them overconfident....


35 posted on 11/01/2013 12:25:07 PM PDT by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: Maelstorm
I agree. The overreach of the Alien Regime has offered the GOP a historic opportunity, if they have the desire to accept it. The outcomes of primaries will be more important than ever, as incumbent sellouts are challenged by conservative rivals. Given the potential to exploit anti-Obamacare rage against the democrats, the chance to elect true conservatives is unmatched in recent years. Another 2010 would seal the majority in the House and elect a majority in the Senate.

Let us see what the party does in the coming year. Their conduct of the coming campaign will define who they are.

36 posted on 11/01/2013 12:26:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Maelstorm

Obama’s goal must be to destroy the Democrat party too. Leave only his fascist OFA in place.


37 posted on 11/01/2013 12:26:49 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Maelstorm

In Democratic districts, net incumbent approval has plummeted by 11 points, from +8 approval to +3 disapproval.

i would think a negative sign in front of the ‘3’. Otherwise the difference is 5.


38 posted on 11/01/2013 12:26:50 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: onyx
John Boehner: The Speaker now has a worse net rating in these
Republican districts than Nancy Pelosi. Since July, we find an
11-point rise in negative ratings for John Boehner in the Republican
battleground—now up to 55 percent negative. His net negative rating
is –30 — 8 points higher than for Pelosi in the 50 Republican seats.
Whoa...hoping the pubbies, won't (really) scewed ...
things up..but, We know they're recent history
...

39 posted on 11/01/2013 12:32:22 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Maelstorm
The only thing most people will remember about the shutdown is WW2 vets being locked out.
And the MSM stopped talking about it because it hurt the RATs in a big way.
40 posted on 11/01/2013 12:32:25 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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