Posted on 09/24/2013 7:39:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Conservative Republicans have officially made it their mission to end food stamps as we know them. Such was evident last week, when the House GOP voted to cut the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, as food stamps are now known, by $39 billion over a decade and begin bulking up its work requirements, along the lines of welfare reform in the 1990s.
Whether you believe this a good or humane idea probably boils down to your take on a single question: why don't the poor, who make up the overwhelming majority of food stamp recipients, go to work? In 2012, more than 26 million 18-to-64-year-old adults lived under the poverty line; about 15 million of them didn't have a job during the year. Is the economy to blame? Or are personal choices at fault?
If you're a liberal, your answer is probably pretty cut and dry, and these days likely involves the word "recession." But conservatives tend to take a different view. They argue that whereas unemployment among middle class families rises and falls with the health of the job market, poverty is shaped and fueled mostly by cultural forces, that the poor could work if they wanted, and that the safety net lulls them into indolence. One of their key data points on this front comes from the Census. Each year, the bureau asks jobless Americans why it is they've been out of work. And traditionally, a only a small percentage of impoverished adults actually say it's because they can't find employment, a point that New York University professor Lawrence Mead, one of the intellectual architects of welfare reform, made to Congress in recent testimony.
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We could get rid of all the abuses if we really had to will to do it ... but the dems will moan racism, etc. ... so we don't.
Those in DC do not want the abuses stopped.
Obama’s ilk see the “abuses” as reparations and wealth redistribution and want them to increase.
But, the sheeperal have a different motivation. They, like always, want to feel good about themselves as good people. And making sure that everyone gets what they need makes them feel that way.
I actually had this conversation:
Me: Libs don’t care about abuses in benefits programs - they just want to make sure that everyone gets covered.
Lib: We do TOO care about the abuses [pause] but it’s more important that everyone is covered that needs it.
Me: That’s what I just said!
Lib: [pause] let me think about that...[pause] well, it just sounded so MEAN when you said it.
Take the vote away from anyone not working and paying taxes.
Take the vote away from anyone getting a check from the taxpayers.
Anyone paying attention to the Prepper posts knows that survivial requires a good supply of water. If you have that, you're not in great danger. In America, 99.9999% of the people have access to good water.
Food? You can go a few days without food. It's just not a big deal. As you say, these cuts are not going to put anyone in danger.
Of course. Why? Because the price of every necessity is driven upward by the welfare-expanded demand pressure, thus making eking out existence impossible for those for whom inability to work earn your way is simply not possible, and charity fails under that pressure.
Apparently there wasn’t a choice for “because I’m a lazy moocher who wants to lay on my couch all day in my gov provided housing and drink beer and smoke weed and you people keep giving me money. Suckaz.”
That was the one I was looking for, too. “I cannot afford to work and take such a huge cut in my net income/benefits.”
MIllions not working and millions of illegals to replace them in the work force.
How long can we afford to pay the benefits for both of these bodies? You can’t run a welfare state with open borders. We are going broke trying.
This is from The Atlantic.
The Atlantic - a place full of garbage, crabs and s**t. It’s also the name of an ocean.
It’s no different than the church in my neighborhood that runs a food bank pantry. You can go there on any given Saturday and see that at least 2/3 of the people showing up do not really need the help. They’re just there to mooch off some freebies (which are often driven off in $30,000+ SUVs). But I guess you have to tolerate that in order to care for those who truly do need the help.
Women 3522 - Home and Family reasons...
“I can’t work...’cause I gots to take care of all these kids...’cause their ain’t no daddy...so I’ll get knocked up to get more benefits.”
THAT’S the biggest problem right there.
Franklin once said ‘do not make the poor too comfortable in their poverty’. I think we should return to the type of relief that consists of beans, rice, flour and government cheese...of course, powdered milk, if there are children in the household. Nobody starves but it isn’t exactly pleasant either.
“Take the vote away from anyone getting a check from the taxpayers.”
So you would take the vote away from our military? They receive their pay from the taxpayers.
Cutting Food Stamp expenditures back to pre-Obama levels seen is "ending Food Stamps as we know them"?????
because theyre not poor. they are wealthier than —% of the world. they are fat parasites who need free gastric bypasses.
you want poor ? go to rwanda
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