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Sun’s bizarre activity may trigger another ice age
Irish Times ^ | Jul 12, 2013 | Dick Ahlstrom

Posted on 07/23/2013 7:40:54 PM PDT by neverdem

Latest data shows solar activity has been falling steadily since mid-1940s

Illustration mapping the steady decline in sunspot activity over the last two solar cycles with predicted figures for the current cycle 24


The sun is acting bizarrely and scientists have no idea why. Solar activity is in gradual decline, a change from the norm which in the past triggered a 300-year-long mini ice age.

Three leading solar scientists presented the very latest data about the weakening solar activity at a teleconference yesterday in Boulder, Colorado, organised by the American Astronomical Society. It featured experts from Nasa, the High Altitude Observatory and the National Solar Observatory who described how solar activity, as measured by the formation of sunspots and by massive explosions on the sun’s surface, has been falling steadily since the mid-1940s.

The sun goes through a regular 11-year cycle with a maximum, when sunspot activity is at its peak, followed by a minimum when sunspot numbers are reduced and are smaller and less energetic. We are supposed to be at a peak of activity, at solar maximum.

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Outside the norm
The current situation, however, is outside the norm and the number of sunspots seems in steady decline. The sun was undergoing “bizarre behaviour” said Dr Craig DeForest of the society.

“The sun’s current maximum activity period is very late and very weak, leading to speculation that the sunspot cycle itself could be shutting down or entering a dormant phase,” he said before the teleconference.

Irish solar science specialist Dr Ian Elliott, formerly of the Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies, quoted from figures released by Nasa on July 1st. It had asked an expert group to predict sunspot activity using models, with an upper limit and a lower limit.

The predictions suggested the monthly average sunspot total should range between 90 and 140, but in fact the present monthly average is only 67, Dr Elliott said. A typical average at maximum during much of the early 20th century was about 200.

“It is the smallest solar maximum we have seen in 100 years,” said Dr David Hathaway of Nasa. We are currently in solar cycle number 24 which is about half as active as cycle 23, but cycle 25 is likely to be smaller again due to changes in the magnetic flux on the sun’s surface,” he said.

Dr Giuliana de Toma of the High Altitude Observatory acknowledged the clear signs that solar activity was in decline but this did not mean the earth was heading for another “Maunder Minimum”. This was a time between 1645 and 1725 when solar activity was extremely low or nonexistent, a situation which caused a mini ice age.

The fall-off in sunspot activity still has the potential to affect our weather for the worse, Dr Elliott said. Research by Prof Mike Lockwood at the University of Reading showed how low solar activity could alter the position of the jet stream over the north Atlantic, causing severe cold during winter months. This was likely the cause of the very cold and snowy winters during 2009 and 2010, Dr Elliott said.

“It all points to perhaps another little ice age,” he said. “It seems likely we are going to enter a period of very low solar activity and could mean we are in for very cold winters.”

And while the researchers in the US said the data showed a decline in activity, they had no way to predict what that might mean for the future.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climatechange; cycle24; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; miniiceage; solarcycles; sun
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1 posted on 07/23/2013 7:40:54 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Send this to Algore and his zombies.


2 posted on 07/23/2013 7:42:02 PM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: neverdem

If Obama had a sun ...


3 posted on 07/23/2013 7:42:24 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: neverdem
Not to worry....

Welcome King Barack "Canute" Obama the Great.....

...Obama issues an Executive Order to the Sun...

....to increase it's magnetic field....

and make a good crop of sunspots before elections in 2016....

(PhysOrg.com) -- Sunspot formation is triggered by a magnetic field, which scientists say is steadily declining. They predict that by 2016 there may be no remaining sunspots, and the sun may stay spotless for several decades.

The last time the sunspots disappeared altogether was in the 17th and 18th century, and coincided with a lengthy cool period on the planet known as the Little Ice Age....and lasted 400 years.

Good luck surviving with no electricity and GE modified seeds.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news203746768.html#jCp also

4 posted on 07/23/2013 7:43:39 PM PDT by spokeshave
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To: neverdem

Algore says, “Pay no attention to the giant flaming ball in the sky. It has no impact on weather or climate.”


5 posted on 07/23/2013 7:44:20 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: neverdem

but, but Manbearpig told me we’ll all fry to death...


6 posted on 07/23/2013 7:46:05 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: ClearCase_guy
If Obama had a sun ...there would be no darkside of the moon...
7 posted on 07/23/2013 7:46:15 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: neverdem

“Maunder Minimum”


8 posted on 07/23/2013 7:46:27 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: neverdem

Can’t the UN join forces with Al Gore and just forbid it?


9 posted on 07/23/2013 7:47:05 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: neverdem

Can’t Algore do something about this?


10 posted on 07/23/2013 7:47:45 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Amnesty. The DemocRATS' payback for the 2010 elections.)
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To: neverdem
While the researchers in the US said the data showed a decline in activity, they had no way to predict what that might mean for the future

But computer models based on a theory its own creator disavowed are super reliable predictors.

11 posted on 07/23/2013 7:48:38 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: neverdem
A Ice Age even a mini one is reason for serious worry in ways that Global Warming never could be.

Shorter growing seasons, more fuel required in winter months, less tillable land.

Malnourished people get sick easily, you have epidemics.

Last time we lost between 20% and 40% of the population. This time it could be much worse.

12 posted on 07/23/2013 7:51:41 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I’m getting cold just thinking about it.


13 posted on 07/23/2013 7:54:15 PM PDT by shineon
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To: shineon

I need some a mug of hot chocolate.


14 posted on 07/23/2013 7:55:59 PM PDT by timestax
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To: neverdem

Let’s just hope that thing doesn’t kill us.


15 posted on 07/23/2013 7:59:01 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: neverdem
So moving to the Philippines could be a good thing.
It might end up in the temperate zone.
16 posted on 07/23/2013 8:02:18 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: neverdem

No problem. All we need to do is reverse the measures that the IPCC tells us slows down AGW (go back to driving bigger cars and SUVs, massively increase carbon footprints everywhere, let the developing countries develop, encourage pedal to the metal capitalism globally, etc) and voila! enough warming to mitigate the cool down.

Win-Win for all, right? Even that poor polar bear sitting on the broken piece of ice, begging us to stop the warming, will be grinning ear to ear for the TIME magazine photographers.

This controlling the climate thingy is a snap.


17 posted on 07/23/2013 8:09:18 PM PDT by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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To: shineon
The worse part about it is there is nothing we can do to stop it, shorten it or control it in any way.

All we can do is come up with ways to reduce the numbers of those that die.

18 posted on 07/23/2013 8:12:02 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: Just another Joe

This should be good for business for those of us that live in the tropics.


19 posted on 07/23/2013 8:14:42 PM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: neverdem

Oh. I thought you meant the tabloid...


20 posted on 07/23/2013 8:20:51 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of Muslim Brotherhood))
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