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State of Florida vs. George Zimmerman Self-defense is not a crime: VERDICT WATCH.
annettekblog.wordpress ^ | July 12, 2013 | annettek

Posted on 07/13/2013 6:07:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

I pray for a fair and just verdict. My support and thoughts go out to the Zimmerman family and the defense team as we wait.

Links to Live Streams (Thanks Carole):

WAT~ http://wildabouttrial.com/trial_videos/watch-the-george-zimmerman-hearing-live/

Local WFTV~ http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream//

Click Orlando~ http://www.clickorlando.com/news/-/1637132/19533480/-/fm5b93z/-/index.html

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; chickjuryhesscrewed; florida; georgezimmerman; liveverdictwatch; livezimmermanjury; martin; trayvon; trayvonmartin; ursulathev; zimmerman; zot
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To: ripley; Axelsrd; piytar; Uncle Chip

In Florida, manslaughter is a category-one lesser included charge for second-degree murder with a depraved mind. See (below) the chart of lesser included offenses and the standard jury instructions provide by the FL Supreme Court.

Category one means that the lesser included crime is necessarily included in the jury instructions unless the Prosecution specifically asks that it be excluded. They did not in this case. The Defense asked that manslaughter be struck from the jury instructions, but the Prosecution argued against striking it.

Category two means that the possible lesser-included crimes may or may not be included depending on the accusatory pleading and the evidence presented. Third degree murder is a possible included lesser for second degree murder with a depraved mind. The prosecution argued for it to be included in the jury instructions, but the judge decided there was not evidence to support it.

http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/jury_instructions/chapters/chapter7/p2c7s7.4.rtf

http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/jury_instructions/chapters/chapter33/schedlesserincludoffens.rtf


1,921 posted on 07/13/2013 4:21:39 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Jury Response: What do you mean by specific question?

Play Monty Python for awhile.

If the jurors reasonably and unanimously concluded that Murder 2 was never proven beyond a reasonable doubt, I’ve got to believe that someone in that group of 6 believes manslaughter has not been proven either. There’s no way to know for certain based on evidence and what little was known to make a determination that Zimmerman did not act in self-defense. It isn’t there. It’s never been there. There’s a lack of facts/evidence and many assumptions on both sides. When it’s not clear cut and a determination can’t be made, the tie has to go to the Defense since the burden of proof is on the State.

This could be headed for a hung jury.


1,922 posted on 07/13/2013 4:21:40 PM PDT by parksstp
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To: clintonh8r; jeltz25
Sorry...."the sentences for M2, but MS was sprung...."
1,923 posted on 07/13/2013 4:21:58 PM PDT by clintonh8r (white Caucasian)
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To: Spunky

If it is a hung jury - MOM will be filing a motion for judgment of acquittal

It could be granted


1,924 posted on 07/13/2013 4:22:12 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: fatima
"If they find manslaughter is it an mandatory sentence?Thanks."

I believe I heard 10 to 30 yrs. Up to the Judge.

1,925 posted on 07/13/2013 4:22:36 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: viaveritasvita

In the good way, always.....I know reading things can at times be taken the wrong way but rest assured I meant it in the best way possible. May God bless you and yours always....


1,926 posted on 07/13/2013 4:22:43 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Proud mommy on homepage....)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Heheh...my law studies at the Holiday Inn Express were long before that new language. We were still talking about Melba Toast in my day (Melba was the bartender in the cocktail lounge...and what a cutie she was).


1,927 posted on 07/13/2013 4:22:48 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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1,928 posted on 07/13/2013 4:22:54 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: advertising guy

You deserve hardship pay.


1,929 posted on 07/13/2013 4:23:01 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: VRWC For Truth

They may just have one juror insisting on manslaughter while the rest want to acquit. This upcoming question may be for the benefit of that one juror.


1,930 posted on 07/13/2013 4:23:15 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Placemark.


1,931 posted on 07/13/2013 4:23:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: montag813

wanabe lawyer may limit intent to “just pulling the trigger is enough.”


1,932 posted on 07/13/2013 4:23:24 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: NautiNurse

From the CNN evidence tampering story

“When it takes (defense atty) six months to get a color picture of my client, when the first one I get is a black and white, when I look at it and go, ‘This is off a cell phone; cell phones don’t take black-and-white pictures,’ and I ask for a color copy, that takes two months,” defense lawyer Mark O’Mara said Wednesday in an interview with CNN’s Martin Savidge.

“And then I get a pastel-colored color copy of it, and it takes me to file a motion and have a hearing set before I get the actual .jpeg, no, that’s frustrating. That should not happen. I’ve done this too long to make believe in my own mind that that’s happenstance.”

O’Mara said he learned about the missing information months after he was to have received it. “The only way that we really found out about it ... and the only way that we really found out about the intensity of the failure to give us information was when a person from their own office, a whistle-blower, came forward and said, ‘I gave them that information in the middle to end of January’ and we didn’t get it until June 4th.”

He said he was “beyond” shocked. “It could have derailed the trial,” he said.

The defense said it did not get the complete report until a few days before the trial. O’Mara and co-counsel Don West argued that they needed more time to go through the information found on Martin’s phone and asked for a delay, which was denied.

Judge Debra Nelson said before the trial that the possibility of sanctions — requested by the defense — would be addressed after the verdict.”

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/13/justice/zimmerman-it-firing/index.html#disqus_thread


1,933 posted on 07/13/2013 4:23:37 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: longtermmemmory

If GZ intended to kill TM he would have shot him TWICE.


1,934 posted on 07/13/2013 4:23:46 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: parksstp
This could be headed for a hung jury

Question for legal experts: If there is a hung jury, what are the odds the state will or will not re-try?

1,935 posted on 07/13/2013 4:23:51 PM PDT by clintonh8r (white Caucasian)
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To: Uncle Chip

This is what I’m hoping for!


1,936 posted on 07/13/2013 4:23:53 PM PDT by evangmlw
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To: montag813

>>>>...senseless bundles of raw emotion...<<<<

I fear everyone on this thread is thinking that about me right about now! It’s not true! Okay, once in a while, maybe.


1,937 posted on 07/13/2013 4:23:59 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
"Diana Tennis and Judge Alex have always been right on the money with their analysis."

Judge Alex said last night on Piers Morgan's show that he thought GZ pulled the gun on TM and TM was defending himself. I have yet to hear Tennis say anything that stupid yet. He did say, based on the evidence, GZ should, and would be acquitted.

1,938 posted on 07/13/2013 4:24:01 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Jeff Chandler

1,939 posted on 07/13/2013 4:24:08 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: txhurl

(s)guns are scary, pulling trigger is intentional.(/s)


1,940 posted on 07/13/2013 4:24:27 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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