Posted on 07/13/2013 6:07:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
I pray for a fair and just verdict. My support and thoughts go out to the Zimmerman family and the defense team as we wait.
Links to Live Streams (Thanks Carole):
WAT~ http://wildabouttrial.com/trial_videos/watch-the-george-zimmerman-hearing-live/
Local WFTV~ http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream//
Click Orlando~ http://www.clickorlando.com/news/-/1637132/19533480/-/fm5b93z/-/index.html
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Because it is their job to decide what the facts are. Their answers to those questions actually trump the “guilty” or “not guilty” answers. The judge then applies the law to the facts as determined by the jury.
That is how it is supposed to work.
So if they check off that this was self defense (or rather that the state did not prove it was not self defense), that’s it. None of the other answers they fill in matter. Now, if they determine that the state proved beyond a reasonable doubt that it was not self defense, then the other factual determinations matter.
Sentencing is not a factual determination and does not affect whether a fact has been proven or not, so they are not given that info because it could affect they’re determination of the facts (ie, working backwards and defining the facts to get a desired result instead of based on the evidence). Again, that is how it is supposed to work. It doesn’t alwatlys go that way though.
PS Juries are also called the “trier of fact.”
Speaking of North/South...
What is the difference between a Northern girl and a Southern girl?
A Northern girl says, “Yes, you can.”
A Southern girl says, “Yes, you all can.”
Sure sounds good.
WTFTV. Jurors meals are here. Recess for an hour.
You forgot part of it: "Is a defense against murder 2 and manslaughter unless you be a Creepy Ass Cracka attackin a brutha..."
been a day from hell....went from Az to Tx for bidnizzzz...only thing to see was CNN.....somebody owes me
that’s what defense had in closing args and also in instructions.
Would you become a Republican after this if you were George? Scott, Biondi, Corey...
That’s the point. They are supposed to consider only the evidence and the testimony, not the potential sentence. The theory is that the sentence should have no influence on their verdict. It’s a good theory, but unworkable when you consider that they had the opportunity before the trial to educate themselves on the sentences for MS, but MS was sprung on them without warning, so they likely think it’s a 5-10 year sentence.
The prosecution was essentially advising the jury to ignore the law and the evidence and decide on "heart" (i.e. emotion).
If the jury is trying to tie the evidence to the applicable law...game over (I hope and pray).
“I think the jury is wondering if the mere pulling of the trigger is enough “intent” to achieve manslaugher. (ignoring all else)”
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Bingo!
talking heads saying they are thinking if just pulling a trigger in isolation is enough by itself for element of “intent”.
The Jury does not know what the sentence will be on either counts. The Judge will make the sentencing. I know in some states the Jury can sentence.
That is good to know.
Nice! And so fast...
He’s not saying “sir”. He’s saying “Yes, your honor” but his voice trails off and your mind interprets the “your” as “sir”.
OH MY! LOL
Of course they separate the 2 charges. Jury says Not Guilty of Murder-2. But we cannot reach a verdict on count 2 = Hung
If he’s acquitted, first thing he should do is move to Texas.
Because they are women - WHITE women. The same stupid, senseless bundles of raw emotion who singlehandedly gave us two terms of Obama. And tomorrow morning, they are going to sentence George Zimmerman to death - probably because the prosecutor who gave the last arguments was "McDreamy", according to CNN Chief Fag Don Lemon.
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