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Day 23 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Closing Statements
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 11, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/11/2013 4:59:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 11th, is DAY #23 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday the defense rested its case. A legal analysis via Professor Jacobson HERE.

From my perspective the entire case ended, as expected, early in the day yesterday when Judge Nelson gave George Zimmerman his personal Platinum Express DCA Acquittal Card. The ruling, and more importantly the legal determination she used on the ruling, regarding the Trayvon Martin phone evidence was an immediate Nuclear DCA option. Nelson essentially ruled against admissibility based on ”authentication”. She could have kept it out under other legal reasoning, but no, she chose the one without the slightest chance of being upheld by a District Court of Appeals. IMHO this was intentional and aligns itself with the way she has ruled during the pre-trial discovery phase, and during the case itself. She’s a rigid ideologue, but she’s not stupid – this was intentional.

By ruling the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be “authenticated” to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin just gave the dismissal of the case to George Zimmerman with a bow on it.

As it was carefully explained to me, the phone is like a bucket. The data inside the phone is like marbles in a bucket. Some marbles from calls, others from pictures, others from texts, etc. The State brought the bucket into court – and validated the bucket contents with their own witness from the phone company – Both the State and the defense then began arguing their case around the phone call marbles in the bucket – Primarily with Rachel Jeantel. But no-one challenged the bucket itself. The State authenticated the bucket and the content of the bucket during the introduction.

The defense picks up the same bucket the state hands them, and now begins to use the contents – texts and pictures – and then Nelson rules the bucket itself cannot be authenticated. It doesn’t work that way.

If the state authenticates evidence, it cannot be divided and only authentic when the state holds it, but not the defense. Flawed logic – ABSOLUTELY positioned to give such a prejudicial outcome, the appeal would result in dismissal, not retrial. Nelson gave the case away to George Zimmerman.

She could have ruled on relevance, admissibility, or other factors – but she chose the one destined to fail, “authentication”. She gave it away.

In other news, people are catching on to the Eric Holder, Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Community Relations Service – being the actual puppeteers behind the entire construct of the false case. To them we say “welcome to the party pal“.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; livezimmermantrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: MHGinTN

**Are the race hatred black panther bloodlusters out int he streets to try and intimidate the jury yet?**


Yup.

Local NAACP To Meet Thursday To Pray For Zimmerman Jury
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3041704/posts


1,121 posted on 07/11/2013 10:28:02 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: tanknetter

Nelson knew if she included Murder 3, child abuse, the Appeals Court would instantly overturn the verdict. That’s why she didn’t include it. She didn’t want the embarrassment and bad PR of having the Appeals Court saying in their response to the Appeal that she was a total idiot.


1,122 posted on 07/11/2013 10:28:16 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: don-o

My brother and I usually agree on most things. He just REALLY has a problem with guns. He says every time he’s seen someone who brandishes a gun, it’s usually some little pr*ck that eggs on bigger guys until they get pissed, and then they bring out their gun. Not right, but a-holes like that ARE out there, and he thinks GZ was one of those out of shape pr*cks.


1,123 posted on 07/11/2013 10:28:21 AM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: All
Bill Schaeffer on WFTV said that "if the jury finds that GZ did kill TM in self defense, then the self defense charge is also applicable to the manslaughter charge. IF THE JURY FOLLOWS THE INSTRUCTIONS, THE LAW DICTATES THAT THE JURY SHOULD FIND HIM NOT GUILTY." Bill S. is saying Manslaughter does not include a depraved mind.
1,124 posted on 07/11/2013 10:28:34 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: MinuteGal

I caught a glimpse of George’s mon and dad, his steadfast uncle and various other relatives sitting behind where he is sitting.
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I think George comes from a very good family and he has some wonderful friends. What a contrast with Trayvon’s family & “friends”.


1,125 posted on 07/11/2013 10:28:41 AM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: tanknetter
She probably went out on some of the legal discussion boards over lunch and realized that even most of her peers in the legal profession would immediately consider her a laughingstock if she allowed it.

that's why she delayed her decision until after lunch ... she was ready to let the charge in but knew it was over the top ... she was 'advised' during recess and this is a reversal of her attitude with West in the morning.

1,126 posted on 07/11/2013 10:28:50 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: BlueDragon
It sounded like manslaughter was out also?

It's still in.

1,127 posted on 07/11/2013 10:29:16 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

“Should be a significant advantage to go last”

Thought I read here yesterday, several times, that the order was State,, Defense,, then State again. Is that correct? I hope not!


1,128 posted on 07/11/2013 10:29:16 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: spacejunkie2001; meyer
Someone posted earlier that Wesh said that notes were left in each of the jurors chairs asking if they want to be interviewed by the media after the verdict.

To be fair, I think they had to do this due to the JUDGE stating that a certain amount of 'anonymity' would be provided for the JURY, and the 'length' of that concealment would be decided near the end of the trial.

If the jurors notify the Judge (based on those 'notes') that they are going public, that needs to be evaluated before she sets the timespan of the privacy issue.

1,129 posted on 07/11/2013 10:29:24 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: moehoward

Don’t forget, the jurors have heard both sides....lies or absurd inferences will fire off rockets in their head.


1,130 posted on 07/11/2013 10:29:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Elle Bee
""White riot - I wanna riot White riot - a riot of my own White riot - I wanna riot White riot - a riot of my own ""

That's what needs to happen if this farce of a court convicts an innocent man. But do y'all crazy a%% crackers have the guts to do it?

1,131 posted on 07/11/2013 10:29:58 AM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“Should be a significant advantage to go last”

Thought I read here yesterday, several times, that the order was State,, Defense,, then State again. Is that correct? I hope not!
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That’s correct.


1,132 posted on 07/11/2013 10:30:35 AM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: Elle Bee

judges talk. I guarantee she has been consulting with other judges. Probably the two judges who recused themselves. She is probably the bottom of the barrel most expendable after this. I predict she will be rotaited out to the civil divisions after this.


1,133 posted on 07/11/2013 10:30:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: AppyPappy

I have to laugh at that....a little off topic....my neighbor brought us a bottle of Grey Goose yesterday for watching their dog a few days. It was on my kitchen island where I have situated myself to watch the trial. So yesterday, I kept looking at the bottle during the trial and thought to myself that I would open it and fix martinis when husband came home. Something happened that infuriated me and I tossed a book on the granite countertop.......book hits goose, goose hits granite........smashed shards of glass and vodka all over kitchen....took at least an hour to clean up....lol


1,134 posted on 07/11/2013 10:31:01 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: UCANSEE2

Their identities will be made public by someone before they even get home.


1,135 posted on 07/11/2013 10:31:14 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: JPX2011

No any judge would have done the same...That’s why we have juries.


1,136 posted on 07/11/2013 10:31:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: flaglady47
As I thought. I believe there are only two charges, murder 2 and manslaughter, the third option being acquittal.

The judge is not offering the third option. The jury must choose between convicting Zimmerman of 2nd degree murder or convicting him of manslaughter. ;-)

1,137 posted on 07/11/2013 10:31:39 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Sacajaweau
I'm gonna bet....Tray had charges against him as an adult at some point. IIRC, Trays dad said he called juvie first.....BUT....I remember the earliest press release said he called the cops.

Also, it may be that the divorce papers say something...that he wanted to stay with whom????...that says...not exactly a baby.

In other words, she had to take it out or risk getting trapped.

Yep. I was getting a sick feeling until the judge kicked out child abuse.

Now I'm ready for closing arguments!;-)

1,138 posted on 07/11/2013 10:31:52 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
I made a decision that I will not watch the states closing argument. It would be quite unhealthy for me to subject myself to the lies and filth. I will read about it here later.

I am doing the same thing! I have to think of my blood pressure - LOL!!! I will use the time to pray that they will blow it somehow (just as with their witnesses) and that the jury will see through their distortions and lies and have clear minds!!!

1,139 posted on 07/11/2013 10:32:28 AM PDT by Momto2 (I am praying for Israel...)
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To: Toespi

Yah!!! That’s a sad story.

I’m allergic to liquor. It makes me break out in handcuffs.


1,140 posted on 07/11/2013 10:32:33 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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