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Day 19 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 5, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/05/2013 4:54:41 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 5th, is DAY #19 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

The State is expected to wrap up their case today – A great recap of the trial so far is available HERE: The key witness today expected to be Sybrina Fulton, mom.

Great Expectations? Remember, as y’all have noted during the 15+ months of research, there is so much corruption in the assembly of this case we could expect the State to avoid the traditional witnesses brought by normal prosecutions. We have not been disappointed in our predictions. The state has already won a pre-trial motion to bar the defense mentioning the absence of any witness from the State’s case.

So it comes as no surprise, not a single State investigator has been called, not a single FBI officer, only one local investigative detective, Chris Serino (who supported the defense), and now the profound possibility they won’t even present the Seminole County Medical Examiner. So has the State actually even proven that Trayvon is indeed, deceased? Without the M.E. the ballistics are essentially moot – where did the aforementioned bullet come from? They have not established it came from Trayvon’s body. Think about it.

Because of pre-trial ‘motions in limine’ to exclude the defense bringing it up, O’Mara cannot mention it. Would/Will the jurors notice a missing M.E. = Trayvon blood tox. etc?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bao; fulton; jahvarisfulton; notes; shiping; shipingbao; showtrial; sybrina; sybrinafulton; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: jiggyboy

So the ME testifies that TM was still alive after the shot — suffering and in pain —

Defense objects — speculation

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441 posted on 07/05/2013 7:30:33 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: DrewsMum

That might make an interesting side-thread topic in the Religion Forum, eh?


442 posted on 07/05/2013 7:31:03 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: hoosiermama

Overruled! What a shock!
So this robot can state that TM was in pain and that’s ok?

I am watching bizarro world!


443 posted on 07/05/2013 7:31:11 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: sweetiepiezer

TM was 5’11” in height.
Z is 5’7”


And the 5 11 may not be right.

Still pretty tall for that 12 yr old kid portrait we see of him


444 posted on 07/05/2013 7:31:13 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: DrewsMum

I’m making the case of why she thinks it. If she is Once Saved Always Saved, she may be basing her answer on something that happened when St T was young. His behavior becomes irrelevant if that is the Theology.
Otherwise, she has to believe “We gave up on him and now he’s in Hell”.


445 posted on 07/05/2013 7:31:18 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: hoosiermama
Get an interpreter!

I was hoping for subtitles.

446 posted on 07/05/2013 7:31:26 AM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: jiggyboy
Thank you.

TwitterAmanda Ober @AmandaOberWESH Bao Says in his opinion after #TrayonMartin was shot his heart was still beating and he was "in pain, suffering" #GeorgeZImmerman

447 posted on 07/05/2013 7:31:40 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: hoosiermama

This is another one of Bernie’s sleezy moves. Volunteered speculation about the suffering of the deceased has no place here.


448 posted on 07/05/2013 7:32:01 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Uncle Chip

That would or might explain how TM’s arms got folded under him after he was rolled off of GZ and face down.


449 posted on 07/05/2013 7:32:02 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: hoosiermama

Gordon Ramsay does this on Hell’s Kitchen and Master Chef...but not this bad.

It drives me nuts to listen to someone talk like this

Bernie asked the height of Martin...Witness wont answer..has to follow his script..

WITH LONG PAUSES


450 posted on 07/05/2013 7:32:06 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Uncle Chip
So the ME testifies that TM was still alive after the shot — suffering and in pain —

Oh, and Zim WASN'T after getting the snot beat out of him?
451 posted on 07/05/2013 7:32:11 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: Uncle Chip

Do we have a picture of the button


452 posted on 07/05/2013 7:32:12 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: PghBaldy

Defense objects. Lawyers have sidebar with judge.


453 posted on 07/05/2013 7:32:26 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
Overruled! What a shock!

Judge is correct. It is relative to the case....but as the coroner said, "this is my opinion..."

The second objection for "speculation" will be sustained.

454 posted on 07/05/2013 7:32:33 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: sweetiepiezer

TM was 6’2” according to his mother and brother

He was 6’0” according to his drivers license which he got when he was 16


455 posted on 07/05/2013 7:32:44 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
this guy is a statist ... he will say anything to make his masters happy ...
456 posted on 07/05/2013 7:32:46 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Most of the states witnesses either speak jive, ebonics, or have a heavy foreign accent.


The new reality. “ blended in America “


457 posted on 07/05/2013 7:32:57 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: PghBaldy

“Bao Says in his opinion after #TrayonMartin was shot his heart was still beating and he was “in pain, suffering” “

What evidence in the autopsy led you to that conclusion?

This guy has been coached. He can’t deviate from the script unless he can.


458 posted on 07/05/2013 7:33:02 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: sweetiepiezer

The autopsy report said 5’11” but the video and stills of him looming over the 5’10” 7/11 clerk makes him 6’2” or 6’3” when he was alive. There has been some talk that rigor mortis always curls, i.e. shortens, the body a little as muscles tend to relax in that direction.


459 posted on 07/05/2013 7:33:18 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Uncle Chip

coroner just said 5’11”


460 posted on 07/05/2013 7:33:34 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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