Posted on 06/19/2013 5:57:27 PM PDT by lowbridge
Should California tell farmers throughout the country how to run their farms? Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, says no.
"It's exactly what our founding fathers wanted to avoid," King said.
But the rural-state lawmaker is concerned over California's strict laws on egg producers and other farmers as a result of Proposition 2, a ballot initiative passed by voters in 2008. The law requires egg producers to increase their cage size to more than 200 square inches, more than triple the industry recommendation. As a result, farmers from other states must comply with California hen cage standards if they wish to sell their product in the Golden State.
If they don't comply, they can't do business there.
But not if King has his way. He's proposed an amendment to the pending farm bill in Congress which would allow farmers in other states to sell eggs in California without having to comply with the state's law.
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If your state wants to outlaw products made with child labor in China or any other country, then you’ll get no argument from me. And I won’t be asking my Congressman to pass a law forcing your state to sell that crap.
BTW I have a guitar that was probably made by little children in China. They did a pretty bang up job. It sounds and plays great. I bought it because it sounded so good. I didn’t know it was made in China until I got it home.
A trade barrier would be enforcing higher standards on across the border trade compared to within the border trade. So if California says only green eggs may be sold in the state, as long as those are applied equally to other states, then they are within their rights.
Idiots like you should go raise your own chickens!
You know, that’s a hair over 14” X 14”. Think about that. A hen sits in that box her whole laying life eating feed and dropping an egg every day or so - or else. Now, I’m not saying that chickens are people or that they should be given accord as people, however, I do believe that how people treat animals is a clue to how they view everyone and everything else.
Am I against killing chickens or animals for food? Nope. Am I a tree hugging druid who is a vegan peace activist? Uh, read my posts.
The whole point is that if you drive economics to the point where you disregard nature, you’ll always end up with substandard food and everything else for that matter. Frankly, cheap food that entails that kind of mass production ethic isn’t really food and sure as hell isn’t what the Lord intended.
My layers have sunshine, bugs, greens and all the freedom to roam they care for. By the way, you couldn’t buy the quality of eggs these critters produce.
Bon appetite!
“The big earthquake can’t come soon enough.”
So you would be happy to see the 40% of us that are NOT Marxists die along with them? Just astonishing logic. We are more frustrated with our government than any of you who live elsewhere, but to suggest that all the residents of California suffer a major earthquake makes you one of the biggest a$$holes to ever post here! Way to go Jerk!
“Actually you can buy “free range” eggs for just a little more than the factory produced ones. They taste better.”
Not in a double blind taste test they don’t. When neither the cook or the person eating the egg know which is which the person tasting the egg choose the free range egg about 50% of the time. In other words no better than a random guess.
When either the cook or the taster knows which is which the percentage goes up. indicating there is some confirmation bias going on.
A conservative case can be made that state laws should be minimized and normalized in order to encourage the flow of goods and services across state borders, e.g. a NAFTA within the US.
Depending on how you are personally affected you will choose the conservative case that best supports your perceived self-interest.
That way you get to have your eggs and eat them too!
If it makes better or cheaper food hang them by their toes and shake them 24/7!!!
They are nothing but a food source, if you can’t eat them or wear them exterminate them!
“Not in a double blind taste test they don’t.”
Maybe so, but unlike some of you, I have some compassion for the chickens. BTW, I don’t eat Veal either. What is done to calves to make Veal is also a disgrace! So head on down to the Greyhound Track and place a bet on a dog that when he or she can’t run fast any longer, they will be killed. Way to go Arizona and the other backward a$$ed states that don’t care about how animals are treated.
To each his own.
The fact is that my birds (and their good health) are far, far more than a food source and integral to almost everything else I do on my homestead. Of course, if you think food comes in a plastic package, by all means eat whatever the corporations chooses to feed you.
Bon appetite!
A righteous man hath regard for the life of his beast. Proverbs 12:10
Well, it used to be in the power of a state. That changed in wickard v filburn, and then Scalia confirmed it back in the 90’s. Diaz or something like that.
It's a matter of choice, then.
Some people prefer cheap eggs...and don't much worry about the hens' living conditions, only that she (and the eggs) be free of contamination.
Others prefer high-quality eggs, with golden, stand-up yolks. And they are willing to pay for them.
To each his own. That's the way captialism works.
Square inches?
One major problem with the term ‘free range’ is that the birds do not have to be caged. What happens is that barns have thousands of birds walking about in circles around feed dispensers and laying eggs in the chips, excrement and whatnot where they are gathered up and sold under a slightly disingenuous rubric or ‘free range.’ Makes perfect sense to me that these eggs taste little different from factory confinement animals.
Birds that are free to roam and eat diet of choice while foraging are another matter altogether. One obvious clue is the brilliant orange to deep, deep yellow yolk. The flavor, of course, is just as revealing. Remarkably, I can also distinguish the difference between Budweiser beer and my craft IPA’s.
I would be all for a law to impose a 200 square inch cage size... for politicians.
I’m fine with that. I also think when companies practice deceptive word games or do not care to share their practices with the buying public, then that speaks volumes as well and people should know about it by whatever means the full story can be told. However, as long as no laws are broken I, too, favor no government intervention.
I don’t care about double blind taste tests, nor do I believe them.
The shells are thicker, the yolks brighter, and the eggs taste better. Thats all I need.
How about if your food eats them but you don’t?
You'll see more and more of this strange way of thinking coming out of California as Americans become a smaller and smaller part of the political culture.
Remember, Latin law says the fruit on a branch belongs to the guy who owns the trunk. American law says the fruit on a branch belongs to the guy who owns the land directly under that fruit.
They simply don't think the way we do on so terribly many basic ideas it's unlikely they can ever be assimilated.
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