Posted on 06/10/2013 4:36:24 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: I would describe this man as an American hero, as a person willing to risk life, limb and liberty in order to expose to the American people one of the most extraordinary violations of the American principles, value judgments and the Constitution itself in all of our history.
A person so familiar with the intelligence community, as you just heard from the excerpts that you just played. He's aware of the personal danger to himself. He knows of the likelihood of prosecution. But he also understands that the government listening to half the country is not what was bargained for when statues were enacted in the days and weeks after 9/11...
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http://www.hanford.gov/c.cfm/oci/ci_spy.cfm?dossier=54 ~ one of many sources that cover Paul Revere’s collection and usage of colonial metadata. Kept him a step ahead of a resolute and blood thirsty enemy!
I take it you’ve been to Lan Kwai Fong? There used to be a nice cigar place you could get Cuban cigars (just make sure you dropped the ashes in the conveniently placed receptacles along the street...)
No, sorry, not a cigar guy - or tobacco guy. Too much breathing smoke growing up to appreciate it as an adult.
I don’t view this guy as treasonous and traitorous any more than I might view any run of the mill far left liberal...:)
I don’t even bother using the terms anymore. They have absolutely zero meaning, because they are unenforced, even when blatant actions should have demanded it.
When Jane Fonda went to North Vietnam, that killed the concept for good. Actually, when Alger Hiss and his buddies got away with all they did without barely a slap on the wrist, that is when TREASON and TRAITOR died.
Our founders were right, though, to make that bar a very high one.
BTW, your proposed version of what Franklin is reported to have said or written deviates significantly. You might read up on it.
Now, about 'snot', snuf it up puke!
That is exactly why the government is designed for it to have no muscle to do this. Now it has it’s own domestic army, is abusing and molesting people, spying on them...
The Patriot Act was a huge mistake. I’d rather be free than “safe” under the thumb of a KGB with no rights.
FEMA needs to be weeded out too.
Heck, can we throw the EPA into that mix as well?
That is exactly why the government is designed for it to have no muscle to do this. Now it has it’s own domestic army, is abusing and molesting people, spying on them...
The Patriot Act was a huge mistake. I’d rather be free than “safe” under the thumb of a KGB with no rights. They have left the border wide open for jihadists and WMD, anyway. It’s all b.s.
FEMA needs to be weeded out too.
This one defies political lines. Glenn Beck and Michael Moore for Snowden; Bill Maher and Robert Bolton oppose.
You know Snowden is a hero when Barry’s toads at the WaPo publish a “poll” saying that 56% of the jugheads living in this country does not mind if the government is invading their privacy and snooping on them.
I simply don’t think this is (or should be) a political issue.
ANY government employee who saw this SHOULD have spoken out, left or right.
I think trying to shoehorn left or right into this is a mistake.
If someone murdered someone in cold blood, we wouldn’t try to muster for or against it on the basis of politics. Right is right and wrong is wrong.
"But none of the means of information are more sacred, or have been cherished with more tenderness and care by the settlers of America, than the press. Care has been taken that the art of printing should be encouraged, and that it should be easy and cheap and safe for any person to communicate his thoughts to the public. And you, Messieurs printers, whatever the tyrants of the earth may say of your paper, have done important service to your country by your readiness and freedom in publishing the speculations of the curious. The stale, impudent insinuations of slander and sedition with which the gormandizers of power have endeavored to discredit your paper are so much the more to your honor; for the jaws of power are always opened to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom of thinking, speaking, and writing." - A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765
HereNote: underlining added for emphasis.
Words from an ancient wisdom book: "What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9
Will we, in the 21st Century allow the "jaws of power" to invade the "rights of conscience," of "thinking, speaking, and writing" which the U. S. Constitution's Framers set outside the purview of such "gormandizers of power" in government?
You are absolutely correct that our society and our nation have lost sight of those meanings, and the examples given demonstrate this clearly enough... I guess I just expect better from Freepers (and John Bolton).
Personally, I’d prefer a government that keeps no secrets at all to one that violates its own charter by spying on its citizens without cause. The terrorists were never as great a threat as the politicians are.
Meh! Bootlicker. I hope your chains wear well on you.
Edward Snowden.
Someone merely got mixed up composing the title...
I would disagree that it is that easy. Those who think this guy is a snake because he made Dear Leader look bad are just as wrong-headed as those who think he is a hero because he may have done something right.
If someone says “I saw a guy put that suitcase down on the floor over there and then walk quickly out of the airport” and it turns out to be a bomb, that person isn’t a hero, they did what they should have done regardless of whether they are a Tea Party patriot or a Libtard.
Agreed. But in this case, Snowden is both right and wrong. Revealing the unconscionable abuse of power was right, revealing it to The Guardian & WaPo was wrong.
Liberalism is a narcissistic mental disorder. Had this taken place under a Republican the JonStewart media would be demanding that Republican frog marched up the capitol steps.
The NSA had to have been ‘ordered’ and funded to collect our data. Who ordered it, when was it ordered and WHY? It surely cannot be claimed this is to protect US else that Boston Marathon would not have ended in carnage.
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