What the employees in question did at the IRS is not “business as usual.” They should not only be terminated, but tried in a court of law and put in jail.
Fire them? How bout jail!
Nothing but a bunch of criminals. EVeRY LAST ONE OF THEM!
When you make non-violent justice impossible...
They can fire government employees if they want to.
“I’m sorry Mr. jones, but it appears that you took fifteen minutes and three seconds on your break. You are only allowed fifteen minutes. This is a violation of our work rules.....”.
It can be done. It’s just that the supervisors are also government employees. “Birds of a feather stick together.”
Local grand juries should begin indicting Congresspeople
and Senators for
FAILING TO UPHOLD THE LAW AGAINST FELONIES.
A few convictions of misprision of felony in a couple of
states of Commonwealths ought wake up the treasonous
Congress that supports al Qaeda and Communism.
The solution is simple. Don’t bother with termination. File charges against them and then see how bold the union is.
I can tell you from personal experience that firing a Government employee is almost impossible, but it can be done.
The trick is documentation. You must document everything.
Write it down officially.
What usually happens with a bad employee is that they transfer that employee somewhere else so that they don’t have to deal with them. That just leaves someone else to deal with the problem.
Some agencies have a board filled with loads that more or less pass a judgement on whether the charge placed against the offender is legitimate. Legitimate or not they can dismiss charges. And they do. But document enough work
mistakes and they have to act. Sometimes they act by moving the person making the charges. It’s a bitter merry go round to get on.
How can they reprimand them (let alone fire them) when they were just doing what they were told to do by the higher-ups?
I know someone here who worked directly for NSA at Fort Meade and over the years he deteriorated due to his alcoholism and his bosses could not get rid of him no matter how useless he became, until he got arrested driving and then they pulled his clearance and finally could fire him.
Regardless of above, the GOP needs to keep publicly calling for firings on this to highlight the issue.
Appoint a special prosecutor. Arrest those with basis to suspect the crime. Hold trials to fairly judge guilt or innocence (more than the IRS Obamanites gave to the Tea-Party people). Let real justice be none.
In “Chapterhouse Dune” Frank Herbert wrote:
“Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. This is the danger of entrenched bureaucracy to its subject population. Even the spoils systems are preferable because levels of tolerance are lower and the corrupt can be thrown out periodically. Entrenched bureaucracy seldom can be touched short of violence. Beware when Civil Service and Military join hands.”
I wrote the following when McCain Feingold was being considered:
The civil service was started to remove government employees from the influence of politicians. The result has been to remove them from the influence of the voters. One result of this has been ever lower voter turnouts in each successive election. A large proportion of the electorate sees no reason for voting, because it changes nothing, and they are largely correct. Changing the elected officials leaves in place the same bureaucrats that made the day-to-day policy decisions when the previous officials were in office.
Oh boy. People who can’t be fired will be administering our health care.
When it’s money, people get irate enough. Think about the repercussions when it’s people dying.
Why bother firing them? Throw them in prison! Failing that, there’s a tree over there... we could probably find some rope.
Hugh Hewitt has covered this many times on his show. He used to be an attorney in the Office of Personnel Management. He had walked thru chapter and verse on how, at the end of the day, it is virtually impossible to fire a Federal employee.
Why would they be fired. They were skilfully doing what they were hired and expected to do.