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To: presidio9

Well, I know that the Spanish didn’t fail altogether in Florida, because I still live in one of their settlements: St Augustine, established in 1565. It’s the oldest European settlement in what is now the US.


2 posted on 05/15/2013 3:07:40 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Pensacola was settled before St. Augustine. Unfortunately no one knows what happened to them. It was later settled for sure.


4 posted on 05/15/2013 3:12:36 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: livius

Santa Fe begs to differ, and the point of contest is the word “continually.”

Crazy days back then. What history, for both cities.


9 posted on 05/15/2013 3:31:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: livius

Ft. Caroline would have been a year older, but they were wiiped out by the settlers of St. Augustine.


20 posted on 05/15/2013 4:02:06 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: livius
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30 posted on 05/15/2013 4:18:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: livius

Is there anything left of that 1565 settlement?


50 posted on 05/15/2013 5:49:49 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: livius

The earlier Florida settlement is at Ft Caroline at Daytona Beach/ Mayport. It was French

St Agustine was established to destroy Ft Caroline

Also, Santa Fe New Mexico precedes St Agustine.hs


57 posted on 05/15/2013 6:54:10 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: livius

Actually, Fort Caroline in what is now Jacksonville, was established in 1563/64 by French Huguenots (Protestants). Spanish conquistador Menendez came with a fleet of ships and a thousand men the next year, conquored the Huguenot settlement—and after the battle, when the French civilians refused to convert to Roman Catholicism...SLAUGHTERED THEM ALL. Then Menendez went back and established St. Augustine.

This was before the onset of the religious wars in Europe—where later tens of thousands were killed for their religion—and Menendez’ slaughter shocked even jaded Europeans.

Something around 500 French Protestants were executed by the founder of St. Augustine...


76 posted on 05/17/2013 6:01:09 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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