Posted on 04/19/2013 7:03:31 PM PDT by Perdogg
And...scene. RT @adamsavader BREAKING: NBC Reporting that Suspect #2 has been Mirandized by the FBI.— Monica Crowley (@MonicaCrowley) April 20, 2013
Since this guy is a naturalized citizen will he get the death penalty as a domestic terrorist. Or will he be like William Ayers be able to be university professor, all because he had a rich daddy.
Obama and all his connections to radical, terrorists, malcontents, derelicts and deadbeats have come home to roost. 20 years in the pew of a radicalized preacher was for more than show he was further indoctrinated in his hatred for whitey and the rich. Wait is not Obama rich too!
The difference is that between breaking the law as a citizen and taking up arms against your country, which you do at the disregard of your citizenry.
He should be seen as an enemy combatant with a group of people we are at war with (Islamofascist terrorists) and, rather than being read his rights and arrested, we should be waterboarding him trying to find out who else is in his cell and what their next actions are against this country.
If there is an extended cell and they commit another attack on this country, the blood of those victims will be directly on those who decided to follow the route of arresting him as a criminal.
Common misconception there. No one, cops or otherwise, has to read a hoodlum his rights. They just can’t use anything he says before that reading against him. In the case of this dirtbag the evidence pile is a mile high and he’d be tried/convicted whether he mumbles anything or not. As the US atty noted they want to get everything they can from him before a lawyer clams him up. We really really want this peebrain to spill his guts about his contacts, money, weapons, training, und so veiter. And by the way: where did a 19 year old get a pistol and what was it?
LOL, good one.
Go Army!
Hey, it’s not my fault that you acted as if Chechnya was part of the U.S.
Live with your words.
” Dzhokhar Tsaraev acted as a traitor and committed a terrorist act against the country and thereby sacrificed all rights of citizenship. Instead, he qualifies as an “enemy combatant” — a status which doesn’t even qualify for protection under the Geneva Convention.
Tsaraev belongs in a military court — where he would be sentenced to death.”
Exactly.
I'm not promoting anything. I'm just reporting the established law that applies to Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's case -- according to SCOTUS.
I'm not giving Obama any powers he doesn't already hold. Which serves to emphasize the point that we should be very, very careful about who we elect to high office.
Ex parte Quirin is shakey at best in its application to this case.
First, only one of the 8 Germans was a U.S. citizen. So the case of those seven doesn’t apply.
As for the one that was a U.S. citizen, the case hinged on war powers of the POTUS. We aren’t in a declared war and the current POTUS has declared publicly that the war on terror is over. We have specifically stated that we are not at war with Islam and we clearly are not currently at war with Russia.
Like many SCOTUS decisions, this one is heavily flawed. It draws no distinction between citizens and noncitizens. How does a citizen prove that they are not a foreign combatant, if they are not afforded Constitutional rights? Indeed, why are they having to prove their innocence in order to get a customary trial?
Providing the POTUS the ability to declare citizens to be less than citizens defeats the entire purpose of the Constitution. Constitutional protections are intended to keep us safe, no matter who is elected.
“..where did a 19 year old get a pistol and what was it
When the brothers ambushed the MIT cop, it was reported that they took his weapon(s).??
Haven’t heard anything more about that since that incident occurred nor how they were able to ambush him. Sketchy...
The other seven aren't in question. Only the one who was a U.S. citizen -- just like Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.
As for the one that was a U.S. citizen, the case hinged on war powers of the POTUS. We aren’t in a declared war and the current POTUS has declared publicly that the war on terror is over.
Ah, but we are. The Resolution for The Use of Military Force IS a "declaration of war".
And there are specified formal measures that have to be taken in order to end a war -- starting with a formal process declaring the "end of hostilities" and requiring Congressional assent. Bush took this step in Iraq.
Obama may have said the War on Terror was over...but he has never formally ended it. In Afghanistan or anywhere else. We remain in a state of war with the forces of Islamic Terror.
Based on his appearance, I wonder how he will do in prison?
Acting as the young terrorists defense team, "Please produce the document that says that." So goes the problem of not actually acknowledging that we are in a war with Islam.
He isn't an Afghani and you may never find proof of a direct connect (beyond Islam) with Al Queada.
“My question is, why didn’t they use a drone to find this bomber?”
Why waste the money? The way that guy was bleeding out, any average blood hound could have found him.
When he was discovered by the man who owned the boat, they sent in one of their helicopters to determine if they could detect a heat imprint in the boat. They did and they then knew whoever was bleeding out in the boat was still alive.
In your opinion, what prevented FDR from declaring any U.S. citizen a combatant of a foreign power?
SCOTUS decisions are not replacements for the Constitution. Either you have rights or you don’t have rights. If you only have rights at the discretion of the POTUS, then you have no rights.
Given their stated desire that all terrorists be white, right-wing extremists, its damned scary.
BUMP
I didn't give them to him; the Constitution does. According to SCOTUS.
Indeed, it is.
Like I said, as a country, we need to be more careful about who we elect to high office.
I should have been more specific with my question.
Why didn’t they use a drone during the day instead of having the entire police force out there? Couldn’t a drone detect a body in a shed or boat? Couldn’t a drone have flown further than the area the police was focused on?
When the civilian saw the blood,it became a no brainer at that point. There was no longer a need for bloodhounds.
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