TPTB don't want secure borders because they want to continue to attract illegal aliens to shore up the population.
They're desperate for new sources of revenue.
No one really wants the secured borders.
That minor roof work that your neighbor wanted done...will be eventually done by Juan, who walked over the border last year, and is doing first-rate work for thirty-percent less than the professional roofer quoted.
The under-the-table deal that your local butcher arranged with a major grocery in Ohio....only accomplished because of the ten illegal butchers from Honduras that he recruited and brought in...working cash only...for thirty percent less than any of the regular employees would have accepted.
The $6k landscaping job that you finally got done this year....done by Juan the illegal....and you saved $500 over what the real landscaping service would have charged.
We all want the illegals to stay...mostly as the situation lays right now. No changes.
The “we need more workers” is just another liberal canard
Workers do not pay Social Security or government revenue....it is the businesses that hire them that pay it. Whether you have 1 million or 1 billion working.....if businesses put so much money in an economy...that is all the potential revenue there is
Liberal GOP are as bad on economics as the DNC is
Dog gotta be big enough to feed the tick or the inevitable starvation sets in.
More immigints = bigger dog.
The current insustainability of the welfare state is at least partly due to the fact that these illegal immigrants long-term cost the system far more than they contribute. Nevertheless, we should welcome them because they provide a short-term solution even though they aggravate the long-term problem.
No better illustration is needed of Nathan Bedford's third Maxim of politics: failed socialism begets more socialism.
With the majority of illegals and their offspring ill-educated and on some sort of welfare during their working years they are not the solution. Increased immigration for skilled immigrants ould help, but that’s not the vast majority of whom we’re looking to legalize.
Opening the gates to hordes of illegal aliens will GROW the welfare state and the COST of it, not “sustain” it.
The stupidity of George Will and his ilk is mind boggling.
There is a problem with sustainment of the OASDI provisions of the FICA, Social Security. There simply aren't enough workers entering the ranks of the employed here to sustain it. It is because there are millions upon millions who are on one of 83 programs of government welfare not connected with Social Security. That, coupled with the ever increasing deluge of new SSDI applications (and approvals) has completed the gravestone - only the date of death is to be filled in.
While SS (the old age part) is something that is not likely to go away, the disability part of that can certainly be reduced - there are far to many specious claims and outright fraud; both SSDI and SSI comprise nearly 25% of the outlays.
However, the politicians will not touch either and have landed on another solution. Take 11 million (so they say) illegals and make them legal - take their $8/hour wages, take 6.2% of that over 2000 hours per year and add that to the "fund" lockbox or whatever you want to call it. $992 per year is what it works out to for each illegal. They contribute $82/month and they get $625/month when they claim retirement (and for their spouses)....smart business move.
The other benefit is Democrat votes. They will NEVER vote for a Republican because a Democrat will always promise more. The boon they offer to illegals, citizenship, opens them up for literally ALL of the 83 welfare programs mentioned above.
Notwithstanding the 'benefits' of illegals (name some), the disadvantages, the intangible costs of them are horrendous, and they are always glossed over or just plain overlooked when a liberal is talking about them. They just want more voters and to hell with the rest of us.
It is a no win situation both from an economic and ideology standpoint. Playing Whack-a-Mole at 10 times normal speed.
I wrote two checks yesterday, one for $9000+ and the other for $3000 + to pay for all this (in addition to what I had taken away from me before that). Next year, I won't be doing so; and they won't be able to take as much away either. I've checked out and given up. There is no point in working and amassing anything this government will eventually take away from you. Everything I have is paid for, and my monthly outlays are minimum. My income is managed now to just enough to get by and to minimize what they can take. Let the illegals pay for all this.
Not true.
Outsourcing jobs, increased government regulation. and more single mothers is more than enough to keep the welfare state going.
Illegal immigration is just the icing on the cake!
George Will is correct...the answer, however, must be twofold. Create a way to make these people contributors to the system while SIMULTANEOUSLY shrinking the system.
Without the second part, the entire exercise is pointless.
So if I understand this correctly, all current illegal immigrants/aliens will, at the stroke of a pen, become fully functional, working, tax paying Americans. What a relief.
That's mere supposition without a scintilla of fact to support it. Currently, the meter is swung the other way, with Big Sis releasing known "undocumented Democrats" (H/T Leno) and blaming the sequester for it. The law exists to make it happen without the need to extract anybody.
Will does make a valid observation about the reason for any political action: Follow the money.
The birthrate would change, possibly, if our leaders secured the borders and thereby helped citizen employment in the process.
I thought conservatism began with defending the Constitution and the laws of the land, not just deciding what meets our current convenience. The reason we are in this mess is because no one is defending the laws of the land, but rather pretending they don't exist in many cases.
They don’t need citizenship (and the voting rights that go along with it.) All they need is permanent residency.
Edict of Caracalla. Check it out.
appr. 210 AD
nothing is new
In other words the lying,conniving,lowlife,traitor politicians have robbed the American taxpayers for decades,so now they have to cover their worthless asses by flooding the country with people who care nothing of this countries traditions or culture to keep the fraud going
Funny, I thought illegals were a net drain on the Treasury. At the end of the day, its about minting more Democrats, period. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or naive.
Good logic, but based on a false assumption.
They are NOT importing “Americans” that pay taxes-—instead, they are importing “foreigners” who not only do NOT pay them, but CONSUME taxes through our welfare system.
These ILLEGALS are net COSTS to the system rather than benefits.
The system is also WRONG, but who cares about that anymore?
Earth to mental midgets.
You have shipped our manufacturing base to China and Mexico.
Where exactly are these low skilled workers going to work to pay taxes?
Ding! Ding! They are not going to work, they are going to collect benefits.
This BS that Rubio is spewing about they can’t collect for 10 years will be shot down by some weeny liberal judge and we are duped again.
Wake the hell up America!