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White Smoke at the Vatican!
March 13, 2013 | Vatican

Posted on 03/13/2013 11:09:30 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

White smoke at the Vatican. A new Pope has been selected!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; conclave; habemuspapam; livenewpopethread; livepopethread; petrusromanus; pope; popefrancis; romancatholicism; smoke; vatican; white; whitesmoke
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To: RummyChick
.“The unjust distribution of goods persists,,,

Which certainly is a symptom of socialist centrally-planned economies.

261 posted on 03/13/2013 12:53:12 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: D-fendr

His choice of the name Francis is very interesting. Of Italian ancestry, perhaps he has had a devotion to St Francis of Assisi, or is he ‘reaching out’ from the Jesuit order to all of the Franciscans who are devoted Catholics in this 21st Century.

Waiting to learn more about this choice...


262 posted on 03/13/2013 12:53:27 PM PDT by maica (Welcome to post-rational America.)
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To: onyx

I suspected I may have missed it.

Just saw the new Pope come out... got chills - on both sides! You can see the emotion in his face, and I like his apparent warmness. He’s got a kind voice as well, imo. Pope Benedict seemed to rub me the wrong way - just in personality, but that might have been because he followed JPII whom I was quite fond of, and perhaps I was biased in that way...

I Have been listening and praying along... wish I knew more Latin! lol

Thanks for the welcome back and everything! I’ve searched and nothing feels quite the same to me. It’s not official, and I’ve yet to make confession and have communion, but I am getting closer, I believe...

About 1 1/2 years ago I felt led to learn how to make rosaries (wire and various types of crystal and glass beads) - even though I wasn’t even attending mass. That was a big sign to me, as I had lost the rosary my grandmother had given to me. And, it has been an incredible blessing to me... The time to contemplate on what I’m making, is very spiritual, and doesn’t really feel like “work”. And, I’ve made what has to be my favorite rosary ever - for myself, and it’s helped me a great deal.

Anyway, enough about me and this long road I’m on... I’m about to get really sappy about how much I’m grateful for despite the hardships in life I face at the moment! *blush*

Hooray for the new Pope, and may God Bless him with plenty of strength and wisdom! It’s a difficult time to be Catholic these days...


263 posted on 03/13/2013 12:53:49 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: RummyChick
I completely understand why a preacher, or minister or priest or cardinal or pope would say the following..

I do to. I also understand why some would wish to paint the pope as a marxist.

264 posted on 03/13/2013 12:53:54 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: RummyChick

The church has a different calling than government. Problem arises when either confuses itself with the other.


265 posted on 03/13/2013 12:53:59 PM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: RummyChick
“We live in the most unequal part of the world, which has grown the most yet reduced misery the least,” Bergoglio said during a gathering of Latin American bishops in 2007. “The unjust distribution of goods persists, creating a situation of social sin that cries out to Heaven and limits the possibilities of a fuller life for so many of our brothers.”

"I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody's got a shot." - Big Brother O

266 posted on 03/13/2013 12:54:53 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: maica

Yes, the first thought would be - ah St. Francis of Assisi... But maybe not. Be interested to hear more.


267 posted on 03/13/2013 12:55:25 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: diamond6

Yes, I was reading somewhere recently that he was the alternate candidate in 2005.


268 posted on 03/13/2013 12:57:18 PM PDT by ELS
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To: ELS

He withdrew from consideration, I believe.


269 posted on 03/13/2013 1:00:22 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Reminds me of the Cardinal during King Henry VIII reign.

At least you can say that the current Pope didn’t amass great fortune or get caught up in the wealthy trappings of the Church.


270 posted on 03/13/2013 1:00:29 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: D-fendr

Thank you for posting!!!


271 posted on 03/13/2013 1:01:05 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: kitkat

Thank you. :)

Yes, the Church does have the Latin/English missals, but I seem to get lost too easily with how quickly the Latin goes. lol

There are several other parishes in town that I have yet to visit that have the English masses, but the Oratory is one I can walk to whenever I fell like I want to attend without worrying about transportation.

Thanks for the advice about the bookstore though. I will definitely look into it.


272 posted on 03/13/2013 1:03:18 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

He may be a secular priest (not in an order), they have to pay for their own retirement. Without more information your point is, um, pointless.


273 posted on 03/13/2013 1:03:43 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: D-fendr

Thank you, D-fendr. I appreciate that.


274 posted on 03/13/2013 1:03:56 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: trisham

There were scandals going on at the time concerning the kidnapping of some priests.

Someone filed a lawsuit against him just days before the conclave.


275 posted on 03/13/2013 1:04:01 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

FYI, the Guardian is an anti-Catholic rag.


276 posted on 03/13/2013 1:06:03 PM PDT by ELS
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To: LibertyRocks

Pope Benedict XVI is my all time favorite and most beloved, even though I truly and totally loved John Paul II. We have most, if not all of B-16’s books. I know he has to be the greatest theologian to ever be our Holy Father and one of the most humble too, right along with John Paul II.

I think it’s wonderful you made Rosaries. I’ve never entertained the thought but you’ve given me a good idea. I have Rosaries blessed by JPII and B16.

Our new Pope needs our prayers and like you witnessed, I also saw his humility and warmth. I’m hopeful he will have widespread support and the strength to meet the challenges of the secular press!

God bless and keep you.

God bless Pope Francis and Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI!


277 posted on 03/13/2013 1:08:39 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: ELS

http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/news/detail/articolo/america-del-sud-south-america-america-del-sur-10811/

“Looking beyond the common description of him as a cardinal who tends to the ecclesiastical left, in reality Bergoglio is a cardinal who has always had in his DNA the defense of the true principles of the Church, that orthodoxy that the so-called conservative Church believes should never be up for discussion. In that South American cradle of liberation theology and, often, of worldly interpretations of Catholic doctrine, Bergoglio has long been launching his offensive against more or less secular governments when it comes to subjects intimately involved with life and the family. This offensive has its origins, in fact, in the idea that the continent cannot forget its Christian roots. In 2009, Bergoglio took to heart the judgment of Judge Gabriela Seijas, who on the 13th of November ordered the civil registrar to marry two men. Cardinal Bergoglio called the bishops together and issued a joint communication which called this act “absolutely illegal.” Not only this, but the cardinal said that the government “has seriously failed in its duty” by not opposing the decision.


278 posted on 03/13/2013 1:08:50 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

He’s a very humble man. I’m glad that he accepted this time around.


279 posted on 03/13/2013 1:09:38 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Reportedly, he got 26 votes on the ballot when Ratzinger was elected.


280 posted on 03/13/2013 1:10:06 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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