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Psychiatrists to brand grief lasting longer than two weeks a mental illness
news.com.au ^ | 22 Feb 13 | Clifford Fram

Posted on 02/23/2013 10:54:26 AM PST by Drew68

THE grieving process is in danger of being branded a medical condition if a mourner feels sad for more than two weeks and consults a GP, according to an international authority on death and dying.

At present, mourners can feel sad for two months before being told they have a mental disorder, says Professor Dale Larson. Decades ago, a diagnosis could be made after a year.

In a keynote address at an Australian Psychological Society conference in Melbourne on Saturday, Prof Larson will express his anger about the American Psychiatric Association's new diagnostic manual, DSM 5, which is used in many countries including Australia and New Zealand.

The manual, to be published in May, allows a diagnosis of depression after two weeks of grieving.

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KEYWORDS: apa; depression; disorders; dsm; grief; mentaldisorder; mentalillness; mourning; mourningperiod; psychiatry; psychology; youmakebunnycry
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To: hosepipe

The “science” of liberal psychopaths.


41 posted on 02/23/2013 11:30:31 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Drew68
I love Psychiatrists, don't you? I mean, come on! They prescribe wonderful drugs for anyone and anybody! It is a shame that many of the drugs cause so many maniacal mass murders, but, what the hell?.....sorry, I need more Soma...I'll be resting for awhile....

FMCDH(BITS)

42 posted on 02/23/2013 11:30:46 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Drew68

Obama’s been president for... how long?

I QUALIFY!!!


43 posted on 02/23/2013 11:30:58 AM PST by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: ruesrose

I meant to say, seeking treatment for many years.


44 posted on 02/23/2013 11:31:52 AM PST by ruesrose (The Anchor Holds)
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To: Drew68

Q: What is the name of a paranoid mental disorder that identifies all other individuals as potentially dangerous deviants?

A: Psychology.


45 posted on 02/23/2013 11:33:26 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
There are some psychiatrists (far and few between) that are of a more natural (holistic) bent. They are not prescribing the heavy drugs once thought the "only" way to aid with bipolar and schizophrenia symptoms.

And while prayer alone (barring a miracle) may not heal the suffering, it sure doesn't hurt to storm the heavens, as prayer is the only "pill" that provides true peace. That being said, St. Dymphna is a good saint to request prayers from. :)
46 posted on 02/23/2013 11:33:36 AM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Drew68; a fool in paradise
A very shy guy goes into a bar and sees a beautiful woman sitting at the bar. After an hour of gathering up his courage, he finally goes over to her and asks, tentatively, "Um, would you mind if I chatted with you for a while?"

She responds by yelling, at the top of her lungs, "NO! I won't sleep with you tonight!" Everyone in the bar is now staring at them. Naturally, the guy is hopelessly and completely embarrassed and he slinks back to his table.

After a few minutes, the woman walks over to him and apologizes. She smiles at him and says, "I'm sorry if I embarrassed you. You see, I'm a graduate student in psychology, and I'm studying how people respond to embarrassing situations."

To which he responds, at the top of his lungs, "What do you mean $200?!"


47 posted on 02/23/2013 11:34:43 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Beagle8U

“You are aware that this is just BS to ban people from owning guns?”

Damn straight! Be VERY CAREFUL what you say to your VA primary care physician with regard to your emotional or mental concerns.


48 posted on 02/23/2013 11:37:12 AM PST by shove_it (Long ago Huxley, Orwell and Rand warned us about 0banana's USA.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

It took a year to get over my dad’s passing and I still mourn him. Heck, I tear-up thinking about my former kitties.


49 posted on 02/23/2013 11:41:29 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: CodeToad; G Larry
One of those “born agains” that believe medical science is useless and would let your child die rather than taking antibiotics because “God wishes him ill because someone four generations back committed a sin”???

You are an idiot.

Where in G Larry's post did he say that? There are idiots around here. It's not G Larry or me...hmmm, that leaves only one.

FMCDH(BITS)

50 posted on 02/23/2013 11:43:04 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Drew68
Psychiatrists

They are the high priests of Secular Humanism.

I refuse to asknowledge that religion. In fact, I deny the existence of psychiatrists.

51 posted on 02/23/2013 11:46:10 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: Drew68

52 posted on 02/23/2013 11:46:29 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Drew68
The shrink told a friend of mine that he didn't grieve properly after his father died (whatever that means). His father was 87.

My friend noted that the shrink had the nerve to charge him for the whole half hour ($100) even though he was on the phone for half of the session.

My friend never went back. Said if he went back....lock'm up....because he's crazy.

53 posted on 02/23/2013 11:48:12 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Drew68

This is another example of the mask falling off and revealing the true liberal underneath (and yes, the history of most psychiatry associations shows strong liberal bias). They really do not care for people other than themselves...they see others as objects, numbers and obstacles. They want us to freeze in the cold to “save the earth”, fall prey to vermin by hacking away at the 2nd Amendment, make the killing of the youngest and the euthanization of the oldest a cause for celebration (abortion and Obamacare) and replace a successful choice (God) with one that never succeeds (government). They hate people, so any lengthy grief for another is a mystery to them.

I personally believe that grief over losing a loved one lasts a lifetime. It diminishes very much over time but is always there, only to end when we are reunited with them in a world a whole lot better than this one.


54 posted on 02/23/2013 11:52:06 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: CodeToad

55 posted on 02/23/2013 11:53:39 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Drew68

It’s about a 4:1 ratio of time with a loved one to time “getting over” loss thereof. Didn’t quite believe it until it took 1.5 years to get over the ending of a 6 year relationship.

This 2 week line is sheer idiocy. Anyone breaking up after dating a couple months would be labeled mentally ill - pretty much everyone either has been there or will.


56 posted on 02/23/2013 11:54:02 AM PST by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: Drew68

The leading cause of “grief lasting longer than two weeks” is Barack Hussein Obama. There’s much grief for what he’s doing to America. We thought it could be cured on Nov. 6th, 2012 but the disease lingers and still affects millions of Americans.


57 posted on 02/23/2013 11:58:28 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Yet another (example) of just how trivial the members of our society and its leaders have become. I still think of my daughter who died as a child thirty years ago. True I have not taken to bed; but I would say I still mourn her and hope that I will see her again. Their position is NONSENSE!

In the blur of my father's funeral, standing in the receiving line, I couldn't remember a thing any of those kind people said, as they shook my hand, or even their faces - except one. A mutual friend told me confidently, "it gets sweeter."

That atypical statement alone stuck with me a quarter century since because, though I did not understand it at the time, it turned out to be so true. The horror fades, to be replaced with a more or less permanent scare.

Their position is definitely nonsense because there are so many different kinds of grief. And, as someone once said, if you life long enough life can seem to add up to "goodbye and goodbye and goodbye."

The only kinds of grief that could possibly be defined as mental illness, it seems to me, are behaviors that only appear grief-related. Attention-seeking behaviors one sees more often in 19th century novels, like Dickens' matrons still wearing black after 50 years, or never leaving a house.

In short, I think the kind of wisdom that can help a person discern between "healthy" grief and pathology can't be placed in their little categories.

58 posted on 02/23/2013 12:06:48 PM PST by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I thought this was talking about GRIEF, silly me I didn’t realize it was related to schizophrenia and bipolar disorder...


59 posted on 02/23/2013 12:10:14 PM PST by EBH ( The 2nd Amendment exists for times like this.)
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To: Drew68
This on the heels on suspending the Second Amendment for people with "mental problems" of any kind.
Are my suspicions also a sign of "mental illness"?

We know it can takes months to years to cope with the death of someone very close. It is normal.
A two week time limit to mourn the loss of a child. Barbaric!

60 posted on 02/23/2013 12:17:49 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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