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California Gives Up On Math: State will no longer require eighth-graders to take algebra
http://gopthedailydose.com ^ | february 8, 2013 | robby soave

Posted on 02/08/2013 9:08:51 AM PST by lowbridge

California will no longer require eighth-graders to take algebra —a move that is line with the Common Core standards being adopted by most states, but that may leave students unprepared for college.

Last month, California formally shifted to the Common Core mathematics standards, which recommend that students delay taking algebra if they aren’t ready for it. Previously, algebra class was a requirement for all eighth-graders in the state.

The Common Core State Standards Initiative, which is sponsored by the National Governor’s Association, is an effort to unify diverse state education curricula. Forty-five other states and the District of Columbia have signed on so far.

But some education experts worry that the change will further damage struggling students’ college chances, since early proficiency in Algebra I is an excellent predictor of college graduation, according to the Mercury News.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: agenda21; algebra; california; commoncore
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To: Sir Napsalot

“Less people know the difference of two thirds or three quarters and how to solve equations, the easier for the State to steal from them ........”

Methinks you’ve hit the nail on the head.


21 posted on 02/08/2013 9:24:55 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (A return to Jesus and prayer in the schools is the only way.)
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To: shove_it

so is it because the students are too stupid from having not been taught in the earlier grades or can’t they find enough teachers who can teach it?

i still remember my abstract algebra teacher in 11th grade. he would sit with us after class to help. i got a B and was damn proud of it. failed the first 3 semesters of plane geometry and algebra in 9th grade even with the helop of teachers and my dad. one day it clicked. aced 4th semester, aced the final, never got anything less than a B in all future math courses. trig was a snap and i still use it.


22 posted on 02/08/2013 9:25:09 AM PST by bravo whiskey (“People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”)
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To: lowbridge
If you listen to any interviews after a college football game, you instantly know that colleges no longer have any sort of criteria for entrance. The football programs (and most definitely the basketball programs) have "tutors" who sit beside the athletes and do on-line homework. You and I both know the tutor is doing the work because once you hear a few words out of the mouths of these young men you are positive they are not able to comprehend college level ANYTHING. I have no doubt that many of them don't read at an 8th grade level, if at all.

And colleges now offer remedial classes for writing and math before the college level courses. In other words they are doing the job of the free public high schools.

23 posted on 02/08/2013 9:25:11 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (In my world, Daddys don't leave after 4 or 8 years and a new one get picked by half the country)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Quarters?

f’ that, man... gimme dollars!


24 posted on 02/08/2013 9:25:30 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: proxy_user

Same with me in the early 70s. You had to qualify to take 8th grade algebra with grades and an exam.


25 posted on 02/08/2013 9:26:29 AM PST by wrcase
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To: proxy_user

We got it in the 7th.............


26 posted on 02/08/2013 9:26:45 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: proxy_user

Same with me in the early 70s. You had to qualify to take 8th grade algebra with grades and an exam.


27 posted on 02/08/2013 9:27:08 AM PST by wrcase
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To: Paladin2

“This is clearly cultural insensitivity towards Arabs.”

Actually, no, it doesn’t affect them.

Their parents, like most immigrant parents, FULLY UNDERSTAND that their kids will not learn squat if left to the public schools, so they take their education into their own hands, which is why they outrun whites.

It’s only American parents who actually still believe that kids can be educated by public schools. Even Hispanic parents know better, although many of them don’t have the background or resources to help their kids.


28 posted on 02/08/2013 9:28:44 AM PST by BobL
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To: proxy_user
Depended entirely on where you lived. We had it available in 7th grade ~ with most taking it in 8th grade ~ and laggards getting tagged with it in 9-12 until they could graduate.

(BTW, moved from Indiana to Virginia in the 1970s)

Southern school systems like those in Virginia think chilluns are entirely too immature to handle algebra until 9th grade. On the other hand they require county, state and us history ~ and for kids in Northern Virginia that's the same course taken three times ~ makes for some really great docents and tourguides in the DC area BTW.

Fortunately they've given up on handwriting and moved boldly into computer keyboards.

29 posted on 02/08/2013 9:29:16 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: lowbridge

Such “standards” do not allow childern to learn at a pace that is suited to their mental abilities. My daughter is graduating HS taking Algebra II. There was no way that she would have been ready for Algebra in the 8th grade. This is due to her being diagnosed with Ausbergers AND a every poor math system being taught in elementary called “Everyday Math”.


30 posted on 02/08/2013 9:30:13 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: bravo whiskey

White and Asian people math (pronounced maff)


31 posted on 02/08/2013 9:32:03 AM PST by EEGator
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To: BobL

BTW, Arabs are white people.


32 posted on 02/08/2013 9:34:14 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: sitetest

So true! I taught algebra, and LOVED every minute of it! I had some 8th graders in algebra, and they were the motivated kids. The ones in pre-algebra were either unmotivated, not quite as mature as others :), or ones who struggled with math. It was a joy to see my pre-al kids do well the following year in algebra when they were convinced they would never learn it!

Oh yes, my algebra teacher in 8th grade wrote me off as stupid. My 9th grade algebra teacher MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE!!!


33 posted on 02/08/2013 9:34:24 AM PST by karatemom
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To: BobL

“This is clearly cultural insensitivity towards Arabs.”

Well Algebra is an arabic derived word...


34 posted on 02/08/2013 9:34:42 AM PST by GraceG
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To: lowbridge
California will no longer require eighth-graders to take algebra —a move that is line with the Common Core standards being adopted by most states, but that may leave students unprepared for college.

So--just extrapolating a bit here--if a student takes algebra in HS, then they're officially doomed in college? Is this coming from the same people who say your three-year old must be reading Melville or he'll NEVER amount to anything?

35 posted on 02/08/2013 9:34:42 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

many of the folks who turn out to be football players are simply not terribly verbal ~ which may or may not be significant. depends on the kid.


36 posted on 02/08/2013 9:35:57 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: wrcase

My son took algebra in the eighth grade, but couldn’t pass the 9th grade algebra exam, so he took it again.

He’ll take it again in college, only to find out in life he won’t need it all that much unless he becomes an engineer.

I don’t think this is all that big if a deal. Not everyone is suited for college anyway.


37 posted on 02/08/2013 9:36:47 AM PST by Francis McClobber
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To: BobL
I think you missed the point. "The word algebra comes from the Arabic language (الجبر al-jabr "restoration")
38 posted on 02/08/2013 9:37:40 AM PST by EEGator
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To: karatemom

I took algebra in high school and my first go around in college and hated every minute of it.

When I went for my second degree ( engineering related) I had to take it again in order to prepare for calculus. I LOVED it. My professor stated I wasn’t crappy in math, I just had crappy teachers.

My sin us a seventh grade math teacher and he loves it as well. Hats off to you,


39 posted on 02/08/2013 9:42:00 AM PST by Francis McClobber
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To: lowbridge

Outcome based education is a live and well in Kalifornia.


40 posted on 02/08/2013 9:42:51 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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