Posted on 02/07/2013 8:57:12 AM PST by Old Sarge
TAMPA BAY - The Florida Highway Patrol Troop C (Hillsborough, Pinellas, Polk, Pasco, Hernando, Sumter and Citrus counties) has announced the roads it plans to target with driver license and/or vehicle inspection checkpoints in February. FHP says the checkpoints will be conducted during daytime hours, and generally cause delays of five minutes or less. Scroll down for a list of all affected roads.
(Excerpt) Read more at abcactionnews.com ...
A check of the maps shows that the proposed checkpoint locations are along all OUTBOUND roads from Tampa/St. Petersburg, running east and north. The interstate highways and toll roads are NOT being interdicted.
Add this one to the growing list...
If you have lists, ping them to this...
More revenue generation with guns...
...you can assured be these checkpoints wont be in any ‘perfect voter’ neighborhood. Must be sensitive ya know.
It’s not a warrantless search without probable cause. It’s an inspection. Land of the free, home of the brave...
A ruse to manufacture an excuse to search the passenger compartment and trunk for guns or drugs.
My reaction to this would be they do not have permission to enter the vehicle or inspect the trunk. Only the external part of the vehicle....all their requirements for safety can be demonstrated by the driver (wipers, steering, lights, turn signals, etc.)
The license, registration and insurance stuff is perfunctory here in Georgia...you only have to carry a license...insurance, safety inspection, and registration are checkable from their comm link.
I lived in Florida 71 to 73 and I recall this being done then. I got a ticket for an expired inspection sticker.
Don’t worry, they’ll have drug-sniffing dogs nearby that will magically “alert” any time they wish to search a vehicle thoroughly...
That still does not negate the 4th and 5th Amendment.
Don’t answer questions, don’t allow any searches of the inside or your person, always ask, “Am I being detained or am I free to go.”
Being “uncooperative” by asserting your rights is not probable cause.
Your papers please....
Imagine that a vehicle gets stopped, and the officer observes a firearm. Instant probable cause to search the vehicle, the driver, and possibly confiscate the firearm if they can't prove ownership right there on the side of the road.
Please post an essay of not less than 5000 words comparing and contrasting the two (warrantless* search & inspection), be sure to cite your sources.
* -- The fourth amendment requires probable cause (supported by oath/affirmation) prior to issuing a warrant; therefore all warrants w/o probable cause should be nullity. (That, however, is a different topic.)
** -- "“Due process” and “judicial process” are not one and the same, particularly when it comes to national security. The Constitution guarantees due process, not judicial process." (Eric Holder)
From the Article:
Q: What are" vehicle inspection checkpoints"? Troopers aren't mechanics, so why are they checking my car?
A: Per FHP, defective vehicle equipment, such as bad brakes, worn tires and defective lighting equipment, poses dangers to the public.
Dang
Fortunately we don't have those any more!
“Per FHP, defective vehicle equipment, such as bad brakes, worn tires and defective lighting equipment, poses dangers to the public.”
Translation: We need an excuse to stop you for no good reason.
“bad brakes” sounds like “assault weapon” to me. How the hell does a roadside cop establish “bad brakes”, outside of
totally inoperative ones? Disc pads measured for thickness?
Rotors checked for true with a dial indicator?
Not buying into that explanation.
I’d ask for a new inspection sticker then.
ahh but they do have chase vehicles in case anyone does a u turn to avoid the checkpoint.
the USSC said these are legal as long as public notice is given and a PRINTED criteria is used.
This must be a way for FHP to justify their existance. (they must really hate being called speeding ticket cops)
And if the stop an illegal with no license or registration?
I’m sure they’ll apologize and wish him a buenos dias as they send him on his way.
To do otherwise would be racist, dontcha know.
Years ago I was stopped at a drunk driver checkpoint at midnight while on my way home from work (hospital...evening shift).I rolled down the window and the cop stuck his head in and got a huge whiff of halitosis (I hadn’t had a drop).I was waved on and suddenly one of the cops yelled “stop” because he noticed that I didn’t have a valid inspection sticker on my car.But the state Supreme Court had already ruled that intoxication was the only thing such roadblocks could cite.So a few seconds after being told to stop I was waved on again.
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