Posted on 01/18/2013 6:31:46 PM PST by ReformationFan
Perhaps as many as a million people marched in Paris last Sunday and at French embassies around the world against proposed legislation that would legalize same-sex marriage in France. One of the surprises in the French campaign for traditional marriage is that homosexuals have joined pro-family leaders and activists in the effort.
“The rights of children trump the right to children,” was the catchphrase of protesters like Jean-Marc, a French mayor -- who is also homosexual.
Even though France is known for its laissez faire attitude toward sex, pro-family leaders were quick to organize huge numbers. When President Hollande announced his intentions to legalize homosexual marriage last November, a demonstration against the proposal gathered 100,000 protesters. And then what started as a debate about homosexual rights changed to one about a child’s right to a mother and a father, and the numbers in opposition exploded and has come to include unlikely allies.
Xavier Bongibault, an atheist homosexual, is a prominent spokesman against the bill. “In France, marriage is not designed to protect the love between two people. French marriage is specifically designed to provide children with families,” he said in an interview. “[T]he most serious study done so far...demonstrates quite clearly that a child has trouble being raised by gay parents.”
Jean Marc, who has lived with a man for 20 years, insists, “The LGBT movement that speaks out in the media...They don’t speak for me. As a society we should not be encouraging this. It’s not biologically natural.”
Outraged by the bill, 66 year-old Jean-Dominique Bunel, a specialist in humanitarian law who has done relief work in war-torn areas, told Le Figaro he “was raised by two women” and that he “suffered from the lack of a father, a daily presence, a character and a properly masculine example,
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The fact is, large numbers of homosexuals, male and female, all over the world, ALSO, do not buy into same-sex marriage
either. It’s an issue primarily because it’s MADE an issue by
politicians, who enjoy marshalling their constituencies to come out on their side of the issue.
The problem with the polarization of this issue is that it went straight from illegality right into the province of marriage, with no stop at some more sensible way-station like civil unions, or simple legal arrangements giving gay couples
the same legal frameworks that straight couples enjoy.
No, there are too many groups that want to become political players, too much legal/political posturing where the overriding objective is to promote the unpopular institution of gay marriage in order to add it to their basket, make it just one more piece of the “social progressive’ agenda.
If the FRENCH are ahead of us on this (i.e., that the purpose of marriage is to have healthy, happy, children), then we really are in BIG, BIG, trouble.
A blind squirrel finds an acorn (or something like that)
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Homosexuals are what they are, and they have to come to terms with that in their own privacy, between themselves and their creator. Gay marriage is another step in the collapse of traditional society, and that is a bad thing for EVERYONE, whether gay or straight. Traditional society is not a grand conspiracy. It’s a delicate machine, forged through years of human moral perseverance. If we accept that the nuclear family is not something we want anymore, we do a disservice to our children (no surprise, we’ve been doing that since the 1960s). We offer them a bleak and uncertain future that they don’t deserve.
From what I can see, these French homosexuals who have spoken up recognize that they are not natural, and will never be, by the very definition of the word ‘natural’. They accept that, and value what traditional society provides. I commend them for not falling victim to the homosexual agenda, and defending traditional France. From the looks of things, with the outcry over gay marriage, as well as Generation Identitaire’s protest against the destruction of their culture, France’s conservative movement may be waking up from a long period of slumber. About time too.
Just like many mainstream homosexuals recoil at the spectacle of in your face Gay Pride parades with people running around in various stages of lewd attire to put it mildly.
This is nothing but catering to the most militant section of that community.
Xavier Bongibault, an atheist homosexual, is a prominent spokesman against the bill. “In France, marriage is not designed to protect the love between two people. French marriage is specifically designed to provide children with families,” he said in an interview. “[T]he most serious study done so far...demonstrates quite clearly that a child has trouble being raised by gay parents.”
It's very simple. Sodomites must repent of their sin, be redeemed through the blood of Christ and then lose all traces of the wickedness that is homosexuality. The myth of the so-called "gay gene" gives a pass to this evil. It's a deliberate choice by the individual to rebel against Almighty God by becoming a sodomite. The only way to come to terms with this vile sin is a through a thorough transformation through Christ. And please, I ask courteously to capitalize Creator, as did the Founding Fathers, since there is but one and only one God (and it sure ain't Allah, Buddah or any of the others). Thanks.
And being a traditionalist, I'll continue my one man campaign to eschew the use of the term "gay" in the context of homosexuality. Part of their agenda is to control the language by co-opting a perfectly fine word meaning joyous and apply it to their twisted deviancy. My wife (may God rest her soul) and I truly had a gay marriage of over 40 years until her death. Happiness was in abundance and no sodomite is going to corrupt the rightful meaning of that word as long as I'm still alive!
So some semantic differences aside, the intent of your post is laudable.
I don’t know what you mean by “mainstream homosexuals”. By definition same sex sodomy cannot possibly be “mainstream” unless you mean dressing in normal haircuts and suits (during the week...)
And if a large number of homosexuals objected to the “Gay Pride” crapola, how come we never hear of their objections?
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Thanks for the ping. ALerted me to the thread, too.
No sinner of any kind can “come to terms” with being sinful without sincere heartfelt repentence and surrendering their life and heart to God and then changing their sinful way of life.
A homosexual is not instrinsically a homosexual any more than a liar’s real identity is a liar. All fallen souls have grievous flaws of one kind or another; but the human life is meant for changing our fallen nature and becoming the loving servant of God we are meant to be.
It’s simple. Not easy, but simple.
Thank you. Sorry for the lack of capitalization. I should have gone to the Founders on that one, but the fact that they said “their” Creator, and not “the” Creator threw me off as to whether they were meaning it in a more general way. Nice save. :).
As to whether it’s a choice or not to be a homosexual, I see where you are coming from, however there is some basis in reality for people to be genetically predisposed to sin. For instance, people with Tourette’s syndrome may blaspheme repeatedly. This is a sin, and must be controlled and overcome by the sufferer by any means necessary if they wish to remain in good standing with God. I apply the same logic to homosexuality, whether it be an easy, conscious choice or genetic. It doesn’t much matter, because it is a sin. It can be conquered, as the devil can always be conquered. We are given challenges we all must overcome, and this is one of them. A sin that must be abstained from. In fact, I once met a formerly homosexual man who had gotten married to a woman and had kids, mainly due to his strong Christian upbringing. He wasn’t ‘shackled’ or ‘oppressed’ as liberals would have many believe. He was very happy with where he was in life.
Sacre bleu froggies!
Law the promotes homosexual “marriage” is designed to persecute those that refuse to service homosexual behavior.
Refreshingly honest assessment from M. Bongibault.
To quote Marty Feldman’s Igor from Young Frankenstein, on the nosie! Homosexual persons have freedoms (in the West anyway) that would’ve been unimaginable 30 years ago. All this push is about persecuting the Christian church.
Absolutely. Same-sex 'marriage' is an intellectually dishonest thing to even say - has nothing to do with so-called 'hatred' or 'bigotry' - two men can't be husband and wife, nor two women. That is a fact - and marriage, by very definition, is the union of husband and wife. That is reality - that is language. In addition, a child needs a mother and a father. It is beyond dispute that children learn and have unique relationships with each parent, and a mother cannot fill the roll of a father and vice versa. It is also reality that two men cannot supply a child with a mother and a father, nor two women. That is not bigotry nor hatred to say - it is simply reality.
The problem with the polarization of this issue is that it went straight from illegality right into the province of marriage, with no stop at some more sensible way-station like civil unions, or simple legal arrangements giving gay couples the same legal frameworks that straight couples enjoy. No, there are too many groups that want to become political players, too much legal/political posturing where the overriding objective is to promote the unpopular institution of gay marriage in order to add it to their basket, make it just one more piece of the “social progressive’ agenda.
Yes indeed - which indicates even further that marriage does not mean the same thing to these activists as to others - placing so much emphasis on the relationship with the state. Witness those who object to state statutes that say "civil union" but other than that allowed for identical benefits to marriage under the code - the base of their relationship is to have a certificate on file with the state government saying "marriage"? I don't know of anyone who gets married who are looking mainly forward to the legal document vs. their personal relationship.
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