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Did New York State Just Accidentally Outlaw ALL Firearms?
NY Times s2230 pdf ^ | January 15, 2013 | NY legisfools

Posted on 01/15/2013 8:17:18 PM PST by kiryandil

Did the New York state legislature just accidentally make it a crime to merely OWN a firearm?

See page 22 of the posted bill, s2230:

§ 41-a. The penal law is amended by adding a new section 265.01-b to 5 read as follows:
6 § 265.01-b Criminal possession of a firearm.
7 A person is guilty of criminal possession of a firearm when he or she:
8 (1) possesses any firearm or;
(2) lawfully possesses a firearm prior to
9 the effective date of the chapter of the laws of two thousand thirteen
10 which added this section subject to the registration requirements of
11 subdivision sixteen-a of section 400.00 of this chapter and knowingly
12 fails to register such firearm pursuant to such subdivision.
13 Criminal possession of a firearm is a class E felony.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: TigersEye

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121 posted on 01/15/2013 11:21:59 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Nope. I am one conservative who was forced out of San Francisco. I loved the work but came to hate the crowd, cost, and rude, opportunistic, selfish, self-centered, godless scum of the mass of people who inhabited that dunghole.

I couldn’t stand another day of hairy assed faggots in chaps, men kissing, fag flags. I couldn’t stand the high homeless bums and alchoholics take over all of the best parks we built with our tax money, to the point children were afraid to use them.

The final straw was when they banned my guns outright. It was overturned by the courts, but they did ban my guns outright.

I was miserable to the point of depression living in that rancid sewer of mental and moral decay. I left and never looked back and I still haven’t returned to happiness, so badly damaged was I from the effect of living 12 years in the bay area and 7 years in the city limits proper.

The 8.0 earthquake can’t come too soon for me. Here’s to beach front property in Fairfield.

San Francisco can burn in hell.

Somebody said they hated to say they hate their state.

I was born in St. Mary’s Hospital in San Francisco, California. For decades I gave deep gratitude for being born in the “best city in the best state in the best nation in the world.”

I came to hate my city of San Francisco and it’s complete moral implosion.

I have come to hate my state of California. It is a one party dictatorship ruled by communists and socialists.

Here is where things get hard, because I said I loved my nation right or wrong and I would never leave her. I would go down with the ship first.

Well, I will go down with the ship. I won’t leave her. But I am very near to stating that I hate my nation. I never expected the thought to cross my mind, let alone the words to escape my lips. But as I came to hate my once-beloved city and my once-cherished state, I can see a day when I absolutely hate the America to come. It is coming to be not my nation anymore.

I never thought in my lifetime we would be completely hijacked by communists and that entire generations of schoolchildren would become so thoroughly brainwashed that they voted us into defacto slavery. We are on the verge of that with Obamacare and the entire socialist transformation that Obama is accomplishing in real time right before our eyes.

I hate my birth city.
I hate my state.
I will soon hate my nation.

I have nothing left to hold on to but God.


122 posted on 01/15/2013 11:29:56 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: frogjerk

The serf’s law does not apply to our masters and overlords. There are 2 sets of laws. Our masters don’t have to balance their checkbooks. They can’t be sued for sexual harassment. They don’t have to pay their taxes on time, or at all. They don’t have to pay their Nanny’s social security taxes. They don’t have to tell the truth under oath. They aren’t bound by Obamacare or pay social security taxes.

They are above the law.

I never thought my nation would become so corrupt. It is to the point I don’t feel good flying Old Glory outside the house on holidays any more. This is not the Republic the founders gave me. This is a decayed, fallen nation. I don’t even recognize it anymore.


123 posted on 01/15/2013 11:35:13 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: philetus

NYC cops: Register your guns or I shoot the dog!


124 posted on 01/15/2013 11:37:23 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: tumblindice

I know whatcher sayin’! lol


125 posted on 01/15/2013 11:39:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: kiryandil

This is the idiot left’s first (baby) step and trial balloon towards their agenda of disarming America. If we let this BS stand, we are ALL doomed to being slaves of the leftists and statists.

We, even in other states, simply can’t afford to allow this crap to go unchallenged.


126 posted on 01/15/2013 11:44:40 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

[[rude, opportunistic, selfish, self-centered, godless scum of the mass of people who inhabited that dunghole.]]

Had your fill of Sodom eh? SF must be quite close to what sodom was back in the day- godless people revelling in their sin and seething with hatred for anyoen that didn’t pat them on the back and tell them they were fien for doing so-

[[I never thought in my lifetime we would be completely hijacked by communists and that entire generations of schoolchildren would become so thoroughly brainwashed that they voted us into defacto slavery. We are on the verge of that with Obamacare and the entire socialist transformation that Obama is accomplishing in real time right before our eyes.]]

Very well put

[[Well, I will go down with the ship. I won’t leave her. But I am very near to stating that I hate my nation. I never expected the thought to cross my mind, let alone the words to escape my lips. But as I came to hate my once-beloved city and my once-cherished state, I can see a day when I absolutely hate the America to come. It is coming to be not my nation anymore]]

You aren’t the only one- there are many that I’m sure feel the very same way- The Supreme court descsiion to allow the leftto do whatever they hell they want whether it’s constitutional or not thanks to the traitor roberts was very close to being the last straw for many- and now that the supreme court has stepped aside and refuses to do their duty- the left is goign all out assault on our rights- and they ARE succeedign in making many Americans beleive that they don’t have rights, but rather ‘privileges granted by government’ that can be recidned at any point-

I’m not sure what it will take to wake htis nation up again- but the last election caused me to lose all faith that my coutnry is ever goign to be capable of makign hte right and moral chocies any more- I was very dissappointed when clinton won a second term, but I waited that out thinking htings woudl get better, and they did for awhile, but when current admin was up for reelection, I thought- ‘there’s no way in hell that this nation, after all it’s been through with this preasiedent and hte economy and asaault on religion, on the constitution, on the supreme court etc etc etc, coudl ever vote ghim back in- but WOW was I wrong- I lsot all faith that evening/morning when he got reelcted- I didn’t think my coutnry was stupid enough, but I was proven wrong loud nd clear


127 posted on 01/15/2013 11:50:03 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

It is San Francisco, in reality. The city line is across the street.
The customers are mostly SF residents.


128 posted on 01/16/2013 12:59:38 AM PST by buwaya
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To: kiryandil

Now, only outlaws will have guns, in New York State.


129 posted on 01/16/2013 2:09:07 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Please, don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion.)
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To: kiryandil

Those drug dealers are really in trouble now - they better register their firearms pronto. /s


130 posted on 01/16/2013 2:15:16 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: tanknetter
"...My interpretation is that it makes it illegal to own a firearm AND not register it per the law..."

Canada spent one Billion dollars in mandatory registration, then found out the law was worthless!

131 posted on 01/16/2013 2:44:05 AM PST by Does so (Dims don't think ... they PLOT!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Look for in time, a breaking up the the USA along “red states” and “blue states” lines.


132 posted on 01/16/2013 2:56:28 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

We may be in a second American civil war by then, 2016.


133 posted on 01/16/2013 3:01:37 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: onyx

This is why people will end up hiding their guns until things get really bad.


134 posted on 01/16/2013 3:03:11 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: kiryandil

Nothing new there. That’s been the basis of NY gun laws for decades.


135 posted on 01/16/2013 3:10:29 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: BradyLS

Simply rifles and shotguns.


136 posted on 01/16/2013 3:11:32 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: BradyLS

Simply rifles and shotguns.


137 posted on 01/16/2013 3:11:32 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: philetus
"How is the average New York cop going to interpret this law? Will they all be sat down and explained all the intricacies of the law?"

Arrest everybody, let the leftist court system and connections sort it out.

138 posted on 01/16/2013 3:14:23 AM PST by Truth29
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To: philetus

NY gun laws have been this intricate for a long time. It all starts with “all firearms are prohibited” and then a hundred pages of non-intuitive exemptions and definitions.


139 posted on 01/16/2013 3:14:41 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: kiryandil
Your reading comprehension is terrible!

KEEP READING!

That statement is in reference to the requirement for those lawfully possessing such weapons to REGISTER and if they don't, thus they are felons.

140 posted on 01/16/2013 3:14:58 AM PST by newzjunkey (bah)
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