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Did New York State Just Accidentally Outlaw ALL Firearms?
NY Times s2230 pdf ^ | January 15, 2013 | NY legisfools

Posted on 01/15/2013 8:17:18 PM PST by kiryandil

Did the New York state legislature just accidentally make it a crime to merely OWN a firearm?

See page 22 of the posted bill, s2230:

§ 41-a. The penal law is amended by adding a new section 265.01-b to 5 read as follows:
6 § 265.01-b Criminal possession of a firearm.
7 A person is guilty of criminal possession of a firearm when he or she:
8 (1) possesses any firearm or;
(2) lawfully possesses a firearm prior to
9 the effective date of the chapter of the laws of two thousand thirteen
10 which added this section subject to the registration requirements of
11 subdivision sixteen-a of section 400.00 of this chapter and knowingly
12 fails to register such firearm pursuant to such subdivision.
13 Criminal possession of a firearm is a class E felony.

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The "or" makes the first condition true in all cases of possession of a firearm.

Whoops! Yer all felons, NY gun owners!

1 posted on 01/15/2013 8:17:23 PM PST by kiryandil
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To: kiryandil

I seriously doubt it was an accident.


2 posted on 01/15/2013 8:18:41 PM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: kiryandil

They had to pass it in order to find out what is in it.


3 posted on 01/15/2013 8:18:57 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: kiryandil

They had to pass it in order to find out what is in it.


4 posted on 01/15/2013 8:19:27 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: kiryandil

Sure looks that way to me. Perhaps it was no accident.


5 posted on 01/15/2013 8:19:58 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: kiryandil

Line 11 has the and. Looks like mandatory registration of all guns to me. Glad I live in Arizona...


6 posted on 01/15/2013 8:20:00 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: kiryandil

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7 posted on 01/15/2013 8:20:01 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: kiryandil

LOL!

Dumbasses.


8 posted on 01/15/2013 8:21:06 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: kiryandil

Sure. Accidentally on purpose likely.


9 posted on 01/15/2013 8:22:00 PM PST by Califreak (11/6/12 The Day America Divided By Zero)
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To: kiryandil

What most don’t understand about NY gun laws is: normal rifles and shotguns are not “firearms”.
I kid you not.
“Firearms” in NY are whatever is defined as regulated and restricted or banned, to wit handguns, assault weapons, short barreled rifles/shotguns, and machineguns.

So: no, they didn’t. Welcome to legalese - words don’t mean what you think they do.


10 posted on 01/15/2013 8:22:20 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: kiryandil

Do I smell a court challenge?


11 posted on 01/15/2013 8:22:36 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: History Repeats

Right on, Brother. They did a number on all guns in NY State. They knew what they were doing.


12 posted on 01/15/2013 8:22:49 PM PST by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2013! Geaux, Pack, Geaux!)
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To: kiryandil

There’s an “and” clause there at the end that I think applies to both A and B. My interpretation is that it makes it illegal to own a firearm AND not register it per the law.

Which is bad enough as it is. Where’s the vaunted inferred Constitutional right to privacy??


13 posted on 01/15/2013 8:24:12 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: kiryandil

How can this even be? Was the 2nd amendment overturned by 2/3rds of the states?


14 posted on 01/15/2013 8:24:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: kiryandil

Wouldn’t this automatically be struck down as unconstitutional then? Not that “that little book” matters to the new Gestapo.


15 posted on 01/15/2013 8:24:20 PM PST by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: kiryandil

Progressive jackasses who hate our constitution never do anything by accident..so now every law abiding gun owner in New York are criminals


16 posted on 01/15/2013 8:24:45 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: kiryandil

Damn.

My condolences, New York. Now, we’ll see a massive exodus of people, I bet.


17 posted on 01/15/2013 8:25:02 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: kiryandil

There is no reason for registration except to prepare for confiscation.


18 posted on 01/15/2013 8:25:51 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Califreak

The highlighted text makes the entire law ‘unconstitutional’. Interesting to see how this plays out.


19 posted on 01/15/2013 8:26:54 PM PST by wtd
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To: kiryandil

Good. Incremental steps are bad; bring it on. Maybe the frogs will feel the heat and jump out of the pot.


20 posted on 01/15/2013 8:27:51 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Witty saying goes here...)
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