Interesting analysis.
I believe it’s Hispanics (legal and illegal).
Now larger than the black bloc and 70% plus Dem votes (and fastest growing demographic)
That is shocking. Romney, despite many flaws, seemed to fire up the base so well in the first and second debate, he looked and sounded good. I didn’t expect radically large turnout, but certainly 2004 level turnout for the base. Clearly not. Personally, I have never seem more widespread intensity for an election than people I know on our side, even business acquaintances, where we had serious discussions. Any other cycle was not like that.
I guess the vote depressing of the anti mitt campaign worked.
or as I like to say given a choice between coke and diet coke people like the real thing, Democrats.
ABO would have worked if there had been deep differences.
I posted many times, many months ago:
Obamacare vs. Romneycare (”it was tailord for Massachuesetts” didn’t cut it for me and many other).
Obama vs. Obama=lite (or Obama-white.)
In the end, I held my nose and vote for Romney...but many others breathed freely and stayed home
I believe the turnout was there. All the conservatives I know went out to vote for Romney. All of them.
Either we really are outnumbered, or a lot of Republican ballots went missing, beside the massive vote fraud. Busloads of illegals brought to the polls and allowed to vote. Lots of people tweeting about voting multiple times. Snowbirds and students voting in more than one state.
I don’t know. Maybe we really are just outnumbered.
(Bringing back old tagline)
The math will not be denied. The economic data is absolutely terrible no matter the spin by the MSM. Obama should be the cat that has this ‘bell’ wrapped around his neck. All should know that central planning collectivism caused this collapse. America has crossed the rubicon.
The author misses the point about the turnout - it’s not R vs D, it was White vs. Non-White. The Obama machine has worked on GOTV for four years - of “their people” - and managed to get 2% more non-white voters in 2012 than they got in 2008. This happened while many of us (me) and Dick Morris were convinced they wouldn’t get anything close to the 2008 turnout of non-white voters.
Call it what you will, but they won fair and square. Got more votes than our side did!
The problem with this is that moderates are actually liberals so saying there are twice as many who identify as conservatives then liberals is not really a point.
Another problem is that many aren’t really conservative but consider themselves that just because they are republicans.
They are still for some redistribution, just not as much as the democrats.
And if you are talking about turnout: The democrats always have more people to bring to the polls. They don’t actually have to convince more people to become democrats just to show up to the polls. Likely voters are more conservative than registered voters who are more conservative than adults in general.
Democrats don’t have to convince this pool to vote for them they simply have to convince this pool which normally doesn’t vote to suddenly vote and they get more votes.
Turnout works against us because we have fundamentally an issue with spreading conservatism. We are relying on fox news and talk radio to do it when only conservatives watch or listen to those programs. We have to convince lots of people to change their minds. Its not about turnout its about all the propaganda the other side has in the news media, television shows, video games, everything. With the majority comes more media spreading propaganda the majority likes and this leads to a bigger majority etc.
The only way to fight it is for all conservatives to dedicate themselves to convincing others at every possibility and to be greatly informed about the opponents arguments and how to defeat them. That is the only way. Maybe it is a long shot but it is the only way.
for later
In another thread, it was postulated that-
a) Paulinistas pouted & didn’t vote
b) Evangelicals who hate Mormonism stayed home
c) Moderate R’s were turned off by the tone of the campaign
d) General decline in interest over the past 10-16 yeass
Causing a 2M+ drop...
Tremendous support for the turnout by the Obama campaign in the MSM, and tremendous support for Republican voter suppression by the MSM.
The MSM won the election for Obama. They protected him from numerous scandals and pushed the idea that recovery is occuring. They protected his every lie.
Fine but there were no realistic alternatives.
I live in NY, where I could have voted for Mickey Mouse and it wouldn’t have made one bit of difference, given the overwhelming liberalism here & the electoral college.
When I looked about my polling place, which was sheer bedlam — crowds of blacks, Hispanics, hipsters, truly the 7th circle of hell — my heart sank. People like us are in the minority now. Romney wasn’t “cool”; Obama appealed to all the neurotic females (I’m a woman, so don’t call me sexist) and the “99%”.
The election was truly a triumph of the emotional over the logical, an indicator of the change in tenor of American life. It did not leave me disappointed, but concerned over an ominous future.
Ultimately a blog ...
Ultimately a blog ...
I was enthusiastic about Romney. I was giddy about Rombey. So were my co-workers in a 75+ company where most are Republicans.
Where is this jerk from?
Paragraph 3 and 4 prove what I’ve been thinking all along. This election was stolen.
People kept telling me “they can’t stuff enough ballot boxes to overcome the people that are going to vote against him”.... yea but you sure could if you also get rid of enough of the other guys votes to make it possible.
Does anyone truly believe less people voted for Romney than McCain in 08?!?!? No way, no how, even with crappy turnout due to evangelicals and vote my concious conservatives. I knew too many people, middle of the road average joes, completely pissed and looking forward to voting out of office the man they voted for in 08.
A good percentage of the vote Obama DID NOT have in ‘12 that he had in ‘08 are the guys that were chomping at the bit to vote against him.
Any warm body could have won against Obama, if the election had not been f’d with.
It was voter fraud. Period. If the U.S. of Chicago had their way Mitt wouldn’t even have gotten Ann’s vote. The voting system is as corrupt as anything else we do.
Interesting analysis. It’s a crying shame that a +6 GOP electorate didn’t come out in force. If we had a ringing conservative, that would not have been the case. Even so, by staying home they’ve handed over our country to America’s sworn enemy. How can they sleep at night?