Posted on 11/07/2012 8:40:52 AM PST by TigerClaws
This was within reach. Obama had ten million fewer votes than 2008. Despite huge rallies and intensity, Rs didn't show up.
Was it... 1. Insufficient ground game? Hundreds of millions on tv instead of laser beam ground game on our base?
2. Too moderate. Romney didn't motivate the conservatives.
3. The Mormon thing. Evangelicals stayed home.
4. The gender gap. Romney didn't close it.
Despite the MSM spin, this was a winnable election and we lost the chess match.
Thoughts?
I agree. The problem is that we will never win te handout war. The left will always promise more goodies and we will lose. The conservatives in Europe also saw this trend 40 years ago. They attempted to educate the electorate d share their conservative values. Now they are resigned to meaningless party status as the vrios left of center parties fight over how to redistribute the pie in an aethiestic society. As crazy as this sounds, our best bet is to fight this battle on a States rights level. Unfortunately, that didn’t work out to well for the South back in the 1860s.
The Republican presidential candidate did not carry his home state.
The Republican vice presidential candidate did not carry his home state.
So, neither the P nor VP candidate brought any delegates to the table. Their ability to win depended entirely upon their ability to craft a message with broad national appeal and to get that message out to the public despite a hostile media. Anybody else see pipe dreams here?
Bankers are not businessmen. Bankers practice the art of unobtrusive proximity to commerce, take their cut, and focus on risk management. Mitt Romney is a banker, not a businessman.
Extremely poor candidate selection by the GOP in the US Senate races. The Senate should have changed hands last night. The Dems gained.
I want names. I want the names of the problem children at the RNC who need to find themselves in the unemployment line by close of business. I need to hear Limbaugh and Levin be very specific about who caused this. And then we need to rent an abattoir.
I guess I’m going to have to contact Sandra Fluke and ask her what kind of $9.00 birth control she uses.
I can swing by Wal-Mart on the way home.
Let’s not forget the effect of the Third-Party voters. In Ohio, the margin of victory for Obama was about 40,000 votes. Third-party votes cast numbered over 80,000. Not saying that this one episode would have changed to outcome, but it does show how voting Third-party usually ends up helping that candidate that you don’t want in office.
Romney became a SOLID candidate running a strong, professional campaign. His skill set was tailor made for our national circumstance.
Do not be quick to dismiss anti-Mormon bigotry among evangelicals. We've seen it for years on FR. Even last night someone said Romney lost because he worshipped a false profit as if the Christian God would favor a man for reelection who champions infanticide over one who articulated for life.
Why don't you ask Republicans who did, why they stayed home. Why didn't these 2008 voters come out for Romney?
It looks like people found McCain's "you have nothing to fear" from an Obama presidency palatable despite the record of four years in misery, division, high unemployment, stunning debt.
Let's talk about how those Tea Party, evangelical-friendly candidates Akin & Mourdock did? Oops! They underperformed Romney in states he won by 300K-500K votes. That RINO Allen West lost too. Oops! Yeah, your argument is long on delusion and denial and short on personal responsibility and introspection.
Romney only wanted to be the default candidate .. the not Obama candidate.
He would have happily taken any position required to fulfill that role as the default candidate.
Every new report reported long line. Long lines for early voting, lon lines on election day and yet not as many turned out?
Something aint right.
Given what I’ve seen pre-election, I just can’t believe that voters didn’t turn out in droves for Mitt.
I suspect a massive undercount of republican votes.
Is it possible that we are just outnumbered?
The last time I looked, Romney won only about 59.8% of the vote in El Paso County, Colorado. I think Romney's numbers of the vote are even lower than McCain's numbers. RR should have got something approaching 70%.
BTW, Rick Sanctum won big in El Paso county during the primary.
To add for consideration: demographics.
The old conservative coalitions are dying off, be they the Silent Majority, Chrisitian Coalition, or Reagan Democrats. These folks had first hand experience with the Great Depression and the Second World War. These hardships instilled self reliance and love of country, traits that are disappearing in today's world. As such, this election may have been angry white man's last stand. America's culture has simply changed.
During the primary season, one of my FR posts stated the following in response to a Jonah Goldberg comment about Romney:
Sorry, Jonah, but this is not as simple as "not speaking the language (of conservatism) naturally." When a person is steeped in the ideas of Jefferson, Adams, Madison, and Washington, it just "naturally" slips through in the ideas they convey. Remember Reagan?Do Republicans seriously want to conserve America's constitutional principles? Or, are they just objecting to Democrats? Do they have a passion for liberty? Is this just about changing the Party in power, or is it about preserving freedom?
If their concern is for convincing enough voters to reject the idea of "a government big enough to give you everyting you want" and turn to advocacy for "a government small enough to allow you freedom to keep most of what you earn," then they'd better get busy seeing that someone is nominated who has been "marinated" (to use a word coined by Ingraham last night on "The Factor") in the Founders' ideas (isn't that what conservatives purport to "conserve"?).
So far (a/o February 2012), Mitt Romney, though a good man, demonstrates no such immersion. He has been "successful" in benefiting from those ideas, and he recites familiar words and phrases from patriotic speeches and songs, but that is different from understanding and being able to call up and articulate the philosophy which made such success possible.
Ronald Reagan's life and letters reveal that he had "immersed" himself in those ideas for years before he agreed to run for President, and that is why he could set "issues" in light of constitutional "principle." and explain his advocacy or rejection of solutions in by that light.
The other three candidates--Paul, Santorum, Gingrigh--couch their answers to questions in a manner which indicate personal pursuit and understanding of the Constitution's protections, each in his own way.
Of the two so-called "frontrunners," however, the lifetime history scholar, teacher, legislator, and participant in what was called "the Reagan revolution," appears to be the one most likely to be able to successfully articulate and distinguish those ideas to voters, if given the chance to compete with the "counterfeit ideas" of tyranny cloaked in righteous benevolence by Obama.
Is "politics as usual" to win the day, or might we not bring Gingrich, Santorum, Paul, and others who embrace founding principles together to help to create a "passion" for liberty among citizens sufficient to defeat the counterfeit ideas which are leading the Republic to ruin?
The following is excerpted from "Our Ageless Constitution," p. 181:
"It was John Adams who said: "The foundation of every government is some principle or passion in the minds of the people." Clearly, the Founders' passion was liberty, and in order to secure that liberty, they sought out and incorporated into the United States Constitution those ideas and principles embodied in the Declaration of Independence.
"The French historian, Guizot, once asked James Russell Lowell, "How long will the American republic endure?" Lowell replied: "As long as the IDEAS of the men who founded it continue dominant."
"Herein lies the answer to the question, "Will the Experiment Succeed?"
"It can and will succeed IF the motivating "principle or passion in the minds of the people" is LIBERTY, and if that passion causes them to exert the determination and will to complete the needed restoration of the IDEAS upon which the great American experiment was based." ---(End of excerpted material)
My call to the GOP is the same as then! To rediscover and recover liberty from the hands of those who are turning America into just another failing nation dominated by a government-over-people ideology, a determined and massive education effort should begin November 7, 2012, focused on the teaching of the fundamental principles essential to the survival of individual liberty for a people.
had enough corruption for one week.
Then, in my opinion only, beginning wars with terrorists countries but not fighting to win, fearing too much death and destruction against countries that want exactly that from us, giving military over to liberals, putting women on front lines and trying to hug our enemies rather than kill them, i.e. Germany & Japan.
Now we have more people in the wagon being pulled by those pulling the wagon.
Those in the wagon just voted for a newer, bigger, environmentally-friendly wagon but one without wheels!
He who stands for nothing ends as nothing. Mitt stood for nothing. We need to sell America on a movement, not competency. Mitt was trying to sell American on the following: “Sure, Government sucks, but only because I am not in charge of it.” That argument fails just about everytime it is tried.
Oh, and on another note. . the economy no longer matters IF and I say IF, nobody feels the pain. Lesson to Republicans, stop extending jobless benefits.
He who stands for nothing ends as nothing. Mitt stood for nothing. We need to sell America on a movement, not competency. Mitt was trying to sell American on the following: “Sure, Government sucks, but only because I am not in charge of it.” That argument fails just about everytime it is tried.
Oh, and on another note. . the economy no longer matters IF and I say IF, nobody feels the pain. Lesson to Republicans, stop extending jobless benefits.
Women’s “intuition” ? Please.
Give us your sources for your claim that Evangelicals stayed home. I don’t beleive that.
Sorry, this is a case you can’t compare mid terms to generals...and besides, my eyeballs tell me the totals were massive...
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