Posted on 11/02/2012 6:53:53 AM PDT by Sicvee
It would be easy for me to dismiss Obama supporters as mentally defective but for one inconvenient fact: my mother, sharp as a tack at 92, is voting for him. And so is my sister, a San Francisco attorney who is no slouch in the brains department. I’m not sure where my brother, a municipal employee, stands, but neither am I eager to find out. There is no bridging the political gap between us, and so we simply avoid discussing politics. The same goes for old friends, although newer ones are another matter. One of them walked out on our dinner together in a huff when an innocuous remark I’d made about Abe Lincoln evidently bruised his self-righteously liberal, morally perfect heart . Good riddance. It is far better friends than he that I am worried about. Will they draw the line when I let slip my support for the right to bear arms, even concealed? A few of my wife’s closest friends are unmitigated liberals, and it’s unclear how much longer we’ll be able to tiptoe around the political rough edges when we get together socially. (more at the link)
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The liberal mind misses the salient point: with big government, into every aspect of our lives, we will have politics dominate our lives by definition. Thus, the divide will grow necessarily as government grows.
There is no friggin way around it.
That’s it! And that’s NOT to say they are sensitive, but only selfish. Every liberal I talk to is interested in their own personal wants and needs, and not the betterment of this country. Their depth of knowledge on the divisive subjects is paper thin.
Seriously, you’re correct. No compromise or conversion...
Just have to defeat them.
yeah my dad had started that screed already, about “racism”. But here’s the deal, we weren’t racist in 2008 and we are now???????????????? How does that work?
The mom is probably one of those old hippies
I recently moved to NYC after a lifetime in the Midwest. Although there are many committed conservatives in the city, they are outnumbered by low-information liberals. From what I can tell, the reason that most New Yorkers are liberal is that “Republicans are against gay/black/Hispanic people”.
There are also many New Yorkers who call themselves “libertarian”. They are temperamentally Republican people who wish to avoid being burdened with the cultural baggage of the GOP. I recently talked with one such “libertarian” who had never heard of Ludwig von Mises, Friedrich Hayek, or Frederic Bastiat. How does one know he is libertarian if he has never heard of these economists?
Honest to God, I can’t imagine that anyone who has a brain would vote for the smarmy little marxist Obama.
This morning I had the TV on in the background and FOX was playing some of his chump stump speech in Colorado. He sounded like a really cheap huckster using base language and all. It was just awful.
Any decent person should be totally embarrassed to cast a vote for this clown.
Because racism (or sexism) (or bigotry) (or homophobia) (or . . .) is defined as disagreeing with a Democrat.
I met my wife outside the store later and was telling her what I saw ans she heard me and told me it has nothing to do with me, how she can do anything she wants etc.
She then heard my strong northern English accent and told me to go back to where I come from to which my wife said your racist and ignorant.
The black woman then told me I;m a white cracker to go back to where I come from etc.
I told her that I paid for her booze, her food, her toilet roll and she was racist
What did she do?
She then called me racist.
This is the kind of idiots we are facing and it;s getting worse.
Racism and welfare is accepted in the black community and has been for years and now they bring their kids up the same way thinking others should pay for their way of life
Instead of arguing with your seemingly lost friends & relatives, just ask them a few simple questions, which go to the heart of the false assumptions that drive the Leftist ideologue. Give them something to ruminate over, without even offering your political answers, at the same time.
William Flax
This is nothing, just wait until the Obama/Loser Riots!
yeah, they are all kooks if you ask me
"Everything in moderation" has been lost in the debate. Part of the reason, I think, is that the media tends to report any discussion about where we go as a "horse race", and judging from the posts here and from the posts on Huffington, there is this attitude the politics is a zero-sum game. WINNERS and LOSERS.
Even pResident Obama has expressed his zero-sum view of politics with two words during the budget debate: "I won." And with that, we all lost.
The math of economics doesn't have to be a zero-sum exercise. The math of governing doesn't have to be a zero-sum exercise, either. If you are a free-individual believer, test that belief against what you would prohibit others from doing. How does it directly harm *you*? That should be the test for any prohibition. How does your prohibition keep you from doing the act?
Part of the reason I consider both political "brands" as tainted is because I see difference only in details, not degree or level of hypocrisy.
For the religious, I suggest you look up Matthew 7:3 and ponder the reams of words behind the single line.
Well said. Unfortunately, there is a growing contingent of so-called conservatives who're also quite comfortable with large intrusive government. The only difference between them and your tax and spend liberal is the focus of the intrusion. Conservative culture war types were content advocating that government promote their values, however their successors are more comfortable with government dictating those same values. I've seen more calls for unnecessary constitutional amendments in the last 4 years than I have seen in my entire life.
When I tried to argue facts with her she said that she didn't like the violence in my responses (we were communicating via facebook) and that there was nothing factual I could say to make her change her mind. She has her fingers in her ears and her head in the sand and she's happy that way.
I just gave up and stopped trying...
For a more extended discussion, Losing America's Multi-Generational Purpose.
Electing Romney could be a step in the right direction; but it will depend upon millions of Conservatives staying active & learning how to be more persuasive.
William Flax [Romney/Ryan, next Tuesday]
I respectfully disagree somewhat - most of the conservative culture warriors fight a liberal attempt to have an activist government change the culture. While we may disagree on whether that's a worthy battle - a legitimate disagreement - I refuse to acknowledge that its the same thing as being pro government by conservatives.
Liberals are not stupid or ignorant; they have a different worldview. This means that:
A. they answer to a different moral code;
B. they acknowledge different authorities;
C. they value different things.
These differences are non-trivial. Our worldviews are more often than not in diametric opposition to each other. As Americans we no longer have a common frame of reference. How can we agree on matters of public policy when we cannot agree on something as basic as what is Right and Wrong? This is a cultural disaster and it defies an easy solution. IMO there is no way to unscramble this egg. The battle for hearts and minds is over and nobody won. Liberals will never again adopt our worldview, and we will not willingly adopt thiers. Historically, the only option that offers both sides freedom of conscience is to separate, either peacefully or violently. In all other scenarios the dominant side will dictate the conscience of the weaker one. Obama's HHS birth control mandate is an example of this.
I’ve found those who can’t or won’t harbor any political dissent have problems in other areas of their lives as well. We all know the type. Constantly unhappy and always blaming others, usually emphatically with plenty of cuss words.
They are usually easy to identify with just a passing knowledge of their personal lives. Regardless of party affiliation or religion, they uniformly tend to suck at interpersonal relationships.
With liberals it’s usually the aging bachelor or spinster who just doesn’t understand why they can’t get a date. There is no room in their lives for a drink, a laugh, or a general good time. Every waking moment is as serious as a heart attack and almost as fun. I just described several of my wife’s friends, and I only wish I was joking.
With conservatives it’s usually the guy or gal who’s been married 4 times, and it was always the former spouse who was impossible to get along with. I know this guy personally. Politically sound, but a card carrying member of the perpetually pissed off.
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